Can we really say UFC dead? Conor, Lesnar, Silva, now Bones
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UFC is not dead, it just smells like that!
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What is with all these Juicehead click-bait threads?
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Brock isn't fighting until 2019
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though the "UFC is dead" meme is relatively new, the opinion/perspective is not. people have been predicting the UFC downfall since before i started perusing these forums in 2002. back then they had 1 revenue stream: PPV. but that all changed.
will over-saturation eventually hurt the UFC? it could. maybe the 4th major US TV deal will suffer for it. or the 7th. but so far, the nay-sayers have a long and consistent history of being flat out wrong.
- TUF and the Spike deal proved em wrong.
- and then they transitioned that into over 100 tv deals around the world. that proved em wrong again.
- and then they moved to Fox. that proved em wrong again.
- most recently they inked a deal to move to ESPN+. that proved em wrong again.
will over-saturation eventually hurt the UFC? it could. maybe the 4th major US TV deal will suffer for it. or the 7th. but so far, the nay-sayers have a long and consistent history of being flat out wrong.
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Depends on what the word "dead" means. As stated above, people have predicted the UFC's "death" before...but it's still here. If by "death" you mean bankrupt and gone...then I doubt that'll ever happen. My definition of the word "dead" in this instance means "subpar", "over exposed", "lame", not as good as it used to be....etc, etc, etc. I would say yes in that regard. I feel the fights and fighters used to be better, classier. I still miss Pride.
It’s difficult to say if the UFC is on the downside…I believe it is. I like to look at who can sell pay per views and what fighters get the general public excited… the list is small
Conor, Nate, Brock, Nick, GSP, Jones
That’s 6 fighters and almost all of them are part timers
Then when I look at the divisions this is what I see
Flyweight - all manlets
Bantamweight – Alphamanlet - boring
Featherweight - Ortega is a stud, ZABIT, Max Holloway... a few others I guess
Lightweight - Best division in the UFC – need I say more
Welterweight – Has seen better days – Tyron doesn’t draw, chael 2.0 makes a mockery of real combat sports, Till is still green and then you have Lawler, Maia – a lot of guys who are on their way out.
Middleweight – Luke, The Chris, Yoel – these guys headlining a pay per view doesn’t generate much buzz – it’s just the way it is – some good fights to be made, but nothing groundbreaking and no real up and comers to get excited about (maybe Usman)
Light Heavyweight – this division isn’t what it used to be – needs Jones to make a return
Heavyweight – Brock maybe? DC doesn’t have many fights left and a bunch of guys close to 40 that are on their way out – Hunt, Overreem
In conclusion I think we have some great fights on the horizon... but need some new stars to really emerge and generate some excitement. This is the fight business - you need some storylines, personalities, some rivalries and just good exciting fights. Oh ya and I forgot about the women’s divisions… whoops
Conor, Nate, Brock, Nick, GSP, Jones
That’s 6 fighters and almost all of them are part timers
Then when I look at the divisions this is what I see
Flyweight - all manlets
Bantamweight – Alphamanlet - boring
Featherweight - Ortega is a stud, ZABIT, Max Holloway... a few others I guess
Lightweight - Best division in the UFC – need I say more
Welterweight – Has seen better days – Tyron doesn’t draw, chael 2.0 makes a mockery of real combat sports, Till is still green and then you have Lawler, Maia – a lot of guys who are on their way out.
Middleweight – Luke, The Chris, Yoel – these guys headlining a pay per view doesn’t generate much buzz – it’s just the way it is – some good fights to be made, but nothing groundbreaking and no real up and comers to get excited about (maybe Usman)
Light Heavyweight – this division isn’t what it used to be – needs Jones to make a return
Heavyweight – Brock maybe? DC doesn’t have many fights left and a bunch of guys close to 40 that are on their way out – Hunt, Overreem
In conclusion I think we have some great fights on the horizon... but need some new stars to really emerge and generate some excitement. This is the fight business - you need some storylines, personalities, some rivalries and just good exciting fights. Oh ya and I forgot about the women’s divisions… whoops
they are inking deals sure - the company isn't going to vanish tomorrow- but I get a sense that the product has deteriorated. Some of the cards they put on seem so irrelevant that I cant be bothered spending saturday night watching no names and unranked female fights. Ratings are down across the board thats not a mystery.
I agree with you that people have been saying the company is dieing for a long time and it has always bounced back.. but lately i'm not so sure - things have been worse since WME IMG merger.
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Don't worry, bro, Sugar O'Malley will save the day, bro! Weed and tattoos, bro!
You must believe, bro!
Have faith, bro!
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UFC is just perpetually "dying bro," it's never dead.
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dont worry brook will save them
