Can someone post actual video/audio of Trump being racist/sexist/homophobic? (no anonymous sources)

[MiroHa]

People don't understand that there's a difference between xenophobia and racism. Trump hasn't said anything racist as far as I can tell.

 

[Bargey]

Mexican judge can’t do his job because he is uhhh Mexican

Mexicans are rapists

How is the first racist? It was a silly criticism from Trump because he had no proof, even if the judge was ruling in an unfair way but it wasn't racist.

As for the second - did he say all Mexicans are rapists? If there are no Mexican rapists then what Trump said would be untrue and you could infer racism, I'll grant you that. So does the number of illegals from Mexico who have been charged with rape = 0 then? I'll assume no, which makes Trump's entire statement in context perfectly fine.

Not to mention that saying Mexicans are rapists a is kind of like saying Americans are rapists. Americans are no 1 particular race. Mexicans can be be descended directly from Northern Spain and be as white looking as Germans, Italians, Greeks or Brits. They can be a little mixed or majorly one or other native descended. Its very silly to even infer racism in such a context.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

How about the zillion times he’s failed to pay employees or rent his places to minorities.

How bout his scam artist university.

Not only is he sexist, racist he’s also a trash boss and scam artist

 

[Trotsky]

How is the first racist? It was a silly criticism from Trump because he had no proof, even if the judge was ruling in an unfair way but it wasn't racist.

The judge isn't Mexican, though. He was born in Indiana.

Would Trump say that a Judge named Pete McPatrick would be unable to perform his judicial functions on matters involving Irish persons? That Steve Sneider would be incapable of performing his judicial functions on matters involving Germans?

As for the second - did he say all Mexicans are rapists? If there are no Mexican rapists then what Trump said would be untrue and you could infer racism, I'll grant you that. So does the number of illegals from Mexico who have been charged with rape = 0 then? I'll assume no, which makes Trump's entire statement in context perfectly fine.

Not to mention that saying Mexicans are rapists a is kind of like saying Americans are rapists. Americans are no 1 particular race. Mexicans can be be descended directly from Northern Spain and be as white looking as Germans, Italians, Greeks or Brits. They can be a little mixed or majorly one or other native descended. Its very silly to even infer racism in such a context.

He said they're rapists and murders and "some," he presumes, are decent people. That implies that the majority, or at the very least a considerably disproportionate amount, are rapists and killers.

When, we have ample proof that undocumented immigrants are markedly less likely to commit non-immigration crimes than white and black citizens of similar economic standing.

I give your logical jiu-jitsu an A for effort, but it doesn't hold water.

 

[ShadowRun]

Except the judge wasn't fucking Mexican. He was born in Indiana. That's like saying Trump should recuse himself from dealing with Germany or wherever the fuck his shitty family emigrated from because he can't be impartial with them.

Also, saying that undocumented immigrants from Mexico were rapists and murderers "and some are okay people I presume." Or playing up the lazy Puerto Ricans stereotype.

His history of sexist statements is so plentiful that it's not necessary to start listing the instances.

I don't know of any instances of his expressing homophobic views or making homophobic remarks. But his judicial and executive appointees are littered with bona fide gay-haters.

I believe Curiel also noted that he was a "life-time member" of the Hispanic National Bar Association, and a member of the National Hispanic Prosecutors Association, as well as the Latino Judges Association

 

[SBJJ]

The judge isn't Mexican, though. He was born in Indiana.

Would Trump say that a Judge named Pete McPatrick would be unable to perform his judicial functions on matters involving Irish persons? That Steve Sneider would be incapable of performing his judicial functions on matters involving Germans?



He said they're rapists and murders and "some," he presumes, are decent people. That implies that the majority, or at the very least a considerably disproportionate amount, are rapists and killers.

When, we have ample proof that undocumented immigrants are markedly less likely to commit non-immigration crimes than white and black citizens of similar economic standing.

I give your logical jiu-jitsu an A for effort, but it doesn't hold water.

You are just plain wrong

The studies that show lower crime rates include LEGAL immigrants.

Show me a study that shows crime rates for ONLY illegal immigrants are lower

 

[Bargey]

He said they're rapists and murders and "some," he presumes, are decent people. That implies that the majority, or at the very least a considerably disproportionate amount, are rapists and killers.

When, we have ample proof that undocumented immigrants are markedly less likely to commit non-immigration crimes than white and black citizens of similar economic standing.

He actually said "there are rapists" I believe. Not "They're rapists". And when you take people into your country, they should be at least vetted. You take in the best. How do you vet illegals? Also, you have been following all the events in California. Where alot of these illegals end up. Do you honestly expect to be getting an accurate picture of how many illegals are committing crimes in California?

 

[Jopious Extronimous]

Show me where he says Mexicans are rapists. Please post a video/audio clip of him saying it.

The judge thing is a bit more nuanced. Again, where is the hatred against Mexicans (not a race, by the way) in that statement? He's stating that a Mexican judge might be biased towards his original country (which could very likely be true). He didn't invoke any power or authority to remove him, he just said he should recuse himself.

This was where Scheme told everyone this was a troll thread, for those who missed it.

Imagine Scyther without a specific shtick, and half the creativity.

 

[waiguoren]

@Scheme is too rational for most Sherbitches. I do salute his effort, but he should probably spend his time working to cure cancer or something.

 

[aitkenmike]

Just a little racist when it is so far wrong it's ridiculous. (Not video or audio or suppose, but I think written text should count.) Also, lol @ Crime Statistics Bureau.

His Central Park 5 nonsense would be a pretty good indication of his racism too. The Mexican judge, the 'They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people'. His companies history of lawsuits for racial discrimination in housing. "“They don’t look like Indians to me,” about Native American Casino officials. He secretly financing sharp ads opposing a Native American gambling proposal. The ads included pictures of syringes and cocaine and asked "Are these the neighbors we want" For which he apologised and paid a fine.

The whole Birtherism saga (yes, I know, ...but Hillary...)

But no, no real evidence of racism at all. It's all just liberal propaganda.

 

[Armbars]

Does anyone care about the grab em by the pussy statement?

 

[waiguoren]

The judge isn't Mexican, though. He was born in Indiana.

Would Trump say that a Judge named Pete McPatrick would be unable to perform his judicial functions on matters involving Irish persons? That Steve Sneider would be incapable of performing his judicial functions on matters involving Germans?

Why not be honest and try to make a fair analogy?

Imagine:

1. Germany shared a long border with the US

2. Trump had run in part on the idea that Germany had been sending bad dudes into the US and otherwise taking advantage of the US

3. A judge, both of whose parents were from Germany, ruled against Trump in an unrelated case

4. Trump found the ruling illogical and suspected ulterior motives for the ruling

Then yes, I'm pretty sure Trump would have made the exact same accusation against the judge.

It's people like you (and members of The Left more generally) seeing every action as an attack on poor and downtrodden blacks/Latinos that's causing the hangup.

 

[Trotsky]

You are just plain wrong

Care to provide your proof to the contrary then? Despite the millions poured into it, no studies have been able to find even a marginal increase in criminality per undocumented immigrants, even without holding for income.

The studies that show lower crime rates include LEGAL immigrants.

Show me a study that shows crime rates for ONLY illegal immigrants are lower

Obviously, immigration-related crime rates bloat the federal criminal data, so you have to isolate for state crimes (murder, robbery, burglary, drug possession, etc.).

http://www.politifact.com/californi...-true-undocumented-immigrants-less-likely-co/ (it cites to a CATO study)

There are also dozens of studies that include BOTH undocumented and documented immigrants, with undocumented immigrants making up roughly 1/3 of the population, that show markedly lower crime rates. Isolating for documented immigrants shows a subset of even lower criminality. What we do know, without a doubt, is that adjusting for income Latino citizens and immigrants (documented or otherwise) commit less crime per capita than black or white communities of similar socioeconomic standing. If you choose to believe that "legal" Hispanic Americans are just so goddamn angelic that they can maintain those lower rates despite the criminality of 1/5 of their demographic, then I guess that's your perspective.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...reduces_crime_An_emerging_scholarly_consensus

Isolating undocumented immigrants is a little more difficult (I have an Immigration Law textbook at my office from which I can pull more specific studies on the topic on Monday).

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

One of dozens of videos of trump pushing the "Obama wasn't born in the US" birther BS:

How is questioning his birth place an issue of race? Lol

 

[Scheme]

Care to provide your proof to the contrary then ? Despite the millions poured into it, no studies have been able to find even a marginal increase in criminality per undocumented immigrants, even without holding for income.



Obviously, immigration-related crime rates bloat the federal criminal data, so you have to isolate for state crimes (murder, robbery, burglary, drug possession, etc.).

http://www.politifact.com/californi...-true-undocumented-immigrants-less-likely-co/ (it cites to a CATO study)

There are also dozens of studies that include BOTH undocumented and documented immigrants, with undocumented immigrants making up roughly 1/3 of the population, that show markedly lower crime rates. Isolating for documented immigrants shows a subset of even lower criminality. What we do know, without a doubt, is that adjusting for income Latino citizens and immigrants (documented or otherwise) commit less crime per capita than black or white communities of similar socioeconomic standing. If you choose to believe that "legal" Hispanic Americans are just so goddamn angelic that they can maintain those lower rates despite the criminality of 1/5 of their demographic, then I guess that's your perspective.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...reduces_crime_An_emerging_scholarly_consensus

Isolating undocumented immigrants is a little more difficult (I have an Immigration Law textbook at my office from which I can pull more specific studies on the topic on Monday).

Try getting your information from more reliable sources with official data:

https://www.gao.gov/assets/100/93090.pdf
https://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf

From both studies of incarceration population (2001 - 2010), it can be seen that the criminal alien inmate population remains steady at a little more than 25%.

Further, the criminal alien population as a percentage of the total fed inmate population has remained relatively constant since 2001. In 2005, we reported that the overall percentage of the criminal alien population incarcerated in federal prisons remained consistently around 27 percent of the total inmate population from 2001 though 2004.

Total inmate % that is a criminal alien = ~25%. Total population of illegal immigrants in America = 12 million, 12 million of 325 = 3%
So 3% of people make up 25% of all incarcerations. An illegal immigrant is more than 8x more likely to commit crimes than the average population. And this is under-represented, because many criminals' charges are dropped if they can deport them back to where they came from.

Go look at the methodology of the CATO study: https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/immigration_brief-1.pdf
As you can see, it is a bunch of estimates based on survey questions asked to the inmates!!! This data is almost as flawed as it can get. They conflate legal and illegal immigrants to lead to even worse results.

 

[Trotsky]

Try getting your information from more reliable sources with official data:

https://www.gao.gov/assets/100/93090.pdf
https://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf

From both studies of incarceration population (2001 - 2010), it can be seen that the criminal alien inmate population remains steady at a little more than 25%.


Total inmate % that is a criminal alien = ~25%. Total population of illegal immigrants in America = 12 million, 12 million of 325 = 3%
So 3% of people make up 25% of all incarcerations. An illegal immigrant is more than 8x more likely to commit crimes than the average population. And this is under-represented, because many criminals' charges are dropped if they can deport them back to where they came from.

Go look at the methodology of the CATO study: https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/immigration_brief-1.pdf
As you can see, it is a bunch of estimates based on survey questions asked to the inmates!!! This data is almost as flawed as it can get. They conflate legal and illegal immigrants to lead to even worse results.

I already addressed this: that considers federal immigration violations, i.e. detention for undocumented entry. In fact, your data not only includes federal immigration violations, it only includes federal incarceration, which is a small fraction of incarceration in general. When removing immigration violations, undocumented immigrants make up 2-4% of inmates.

This is the most basic mistake in analyzing this issue, and the fact that you made it shows how little you've thought of the issue. You should be embarrassed.

 

[Scheme]

Just a little racist when it is so far wrong it's ridiculous. (Not video or audio or suppose, but I think written text should count.) Also, lol @ Crime Statistics Bureau.

His Central Park 5 nonsense would be a pretty good indication of his racism too. The Mexican judge, the 'They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people'. His companies history of lawsuits for racial discrimination in housing. "“They don’t look like Indians to me,” about Native American Casino officials. He secretly financing sharp ads opposing a Native American gambling proposal. The ads included pictures of syringes and cocaine and asked "Are these the neighbors we want" For which he apologised and paid a fine.

The whole Birtherism saga (yes, I know, ...but Hillary...)

But no, no real evidence of racism at all. It's all just liberal propaganda.

Don't think Trump said anything racist about the Central Park 5, and understandably he was upset about a rape, and he had his own opinion on the matter.
Mexican judge I've covered in the thread.
Mexico and South America are bringing drugs, ~95% of the heroin that gets imported comes through Mexico/South America. http://www.businessinsider.com/heroin-in-the-us-from-mexico-and-afghanistan-2016-3
Also, MS-13 and the cartel are huge problems spilling over into America. Did you know that 85% of the top 50 most dangerous cities in the world belong to Central and South America?
They are 'bringing' crime, as I showed earlier illegals are more than 8x more likely than the average person to get incarcerated for a crime (likely even more).

His company history of discrimination could be something, he claims it was discriminating based on welfare recipients (largely black or Peurto Rican in NYC), which is a fair thing to do. Also, the majority of statements from those interviewed said they were unaware of any discrimination. But there could be some merit here, albeit it's from the 70's.

Native Americans don't look like Indians, very astute point. I thought the discrimination police didn't want us to call them Indians nowadays?
Trump competes against other casinos, so of course he would attack them. Doesn't prove he's a racist in anyway, it proves more that he was a businessman, what a revelation!

 

[tkotom]

lol scheme has an extreme boner for a guy who said he wants to date his own daughter haha

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[Scheme]

I already addressed this: that considers federal immigration violations, i.e. detention for undocumented entry. In fact, your data not only includes federal immigration violations, it only includes federal incarceration, which is a small fraction of incarceration in general. When removing immigration violations, undocumented immigrants make up 2-4% of inmates.

This is the most basic mistake in analyzing this issue, and the fact that you made it shows how little you've thought of the issue. You should be embarrassed.

Let's look at state + local jail population then in 2009:
Total: 1.9m https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p09.pdf
Illegals: 296K (https://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf)

Illegals % incarcerated in state prisons/local jails = 16%, with a population of 3%, that's over 5x more likely to be incarcerated in a state or local jail.

The CATO report is garbage. Using it as a reference is useless. The methodology is unreliable. It's based on a sample of an estimate of answers given to interviewers by inmates, it's ridiculous.

 

[HatchetHarry]

"Grab em by the pussy"
" fine people on both sides"
Just two of hundreds!

You post the video, ...
if you haven't seen it you are blind or stupid!

Still no proof.

Fine people on both sides? How is that racist?