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you need to train more. 5x a week if possible. more mat time is all that matters
Been training off and on for 2 years, I'm a white belt. My main issue is lack of aggression during rolls, and I gas quickly. I submit mostly from the guard or half guard and almost exclusively kimura. My guard gets passes fairly easily. I'm 200lbs 5"8 and look athletic. But I don't feel myself improving, and today I got heel hooked by a blue belt that was like 150lbs and 5'2. When I ask my coach what I need to improve on he always says cardio. Idk what to do
This is pretty shocking to me. I've only been to BJJ class a few times so I can't judge from experience. I spent less than a year in Judo before that (5 days / week) and Thursday was the ne-waza day. We would drill getting into positions, holds and possible submissions from there. Their complexity was adjusted based on the belts. Blackbelts would also help newbies and point out better ways of doing stuff. I learned a lot in that time, used it later on in sparring and still remember most of it.
Isn't that how it's supposed to be? In BJJ class is there no teaching? Do you just roll the entire class?
What do you recommend doing for cardio?
It's one of my biggest problems as well.
My cardio improves when I roll hard regularly, but it's never been anything I would consider "good".
When rolling with people around my level, I gas much faster than they do.
What do you recommend doing for cardio?
It's one of my biggest problems as well.
My cardio improves when I roll hard regularly, but it's never been anything I would consider "good".
When rolling with people around my level, I gas much faster than they do.
Flip that back to BJJ - remember that class where we warmed up with guard submissions, then did two different triangle entries for 10 minutes, then got into the triangle stack position and worked out of it for a while, then practiced shoulder walking, then actually drilled triangles, then did positional sparing from triangle guard? Me either. Cause that shit isn't common in BJJ.
Isn't that how it's supposed to be? In BJJ class is there no teaching? Do you just roll the entire class?
"Training off and on for 2 years"? So if we counted all your training days, would they add up to like 6 mos? Not enough information to make a solid recommendation.
If you're OFF more than ON then you need to train consistently. You're not going to learn by osmosis.
IMO, the average White Belt that trains consistently 3x a week under average coaching, should reach the level of Blue Belt in 18-24 mos.
Most BJJ instruction is useless. If you aren't gifted and in the first group of students that join the school, you'll never get anywhere without a high IQ, most places, most of the time. You have to take matters into your own hands.
The best way is to get a basic grappling guide online or make your own by figuring out what the list of most useful BJJ moves are. Whatever you put together will be wrong, but it will be on the right track. Buy some BJJ private lessons from a purple or brown belt that's hungry to teach but will let you drill on him. Master the complete list of basics. Maybe a solid 6 takedowns and 100 ground moves, with multiple entries for the take downs, but only the easiest ones you can get by winning a grip fight.
After you do all that, you'll know enough BJJ to teach yourself for a long time.
I trained for about that long and didn't know how to do anything. After 2 years the only way I knew how to get out of side mount was by feeding my leg under them to encourage them to mount, then feed them and armbar so I could come up to my knees. It was horrible and I was never corrected. I didn't get better until I took an interest in the art and learned to teach myself and force the correct information out of purple belts.
Remember that most of these people who are good are either very smart, or were in the first batch of people that got a lot of private attention, or they started very young. They will tell you that certain skills will come with time and rolling, when they probably will not. You have to learn specific things, like how to hold your body in each position, where the best place for your hands are in each position, and how to hand fight into those positions. They won't tell you how to do those things, most places most of the time, unless you make them. You have to educate yourself so that you know what questions to ask.
A couple years ago I was training at a gym. One of my partners had competed 5 or 6 times and had four stripes on his white belt. He didn't know how to upa or recover guard from side mount. I taught him. It sort of made me mad. They weren't teaching the guy shit.
years ago I was training at a gym. One of my partners had competed 5 or 6 times and had four stripes on his white belt. He didn't know how to upa or recover guard from side mount. I taught him. It sort of made me mad. They weren't teaching the guy shit.
This is pretty shocking to me. I've only been to BJJ class a few times so I can't judge from experience. I spent less than a year in Judo before that (5 days / week) and Thursday was the ne-waza day. We would drill getting into positions, holds and possible submissions from there. Their complexity was adjusted based on the belts. Blackbelts would also help newbies and point out better ways of doing stuff. I learned a lot in that time, used it later on in sparring and still remember most of it.
Isn't that how it's supposed to be? In BJJ class is there no teaching? Do you just roll the entire class?
What do you recommend doing for cardio?
It's one of my biggest problems as well.
My cardio improves when I roll hard regularly, but it's never been anything I would consider "good".
When rolling with people around my level, I gas much faster than they do.
Are you ranked?2 years and still a whitebelt?
Either you suck horribly or your coach sucks.
This is pretty shocking to me. I've only been to BJJ class a few times so I can't judge from experience. I spent less than a year in Judo before that (5 days / week) and Thursday was the ne-waza day. We would drill getting into positions, holds and possible submissions from there. Their complexity was adjusted based on the belts. Blackbelts would also help newbies and point out better ways of doing stuff. I learned a lot in that time, used it later on in sparring and still remember most of it.
Isn't that how it's supposed to be? In BJJ class is there no teaching? Do you just roll the entire class?
We had mixed groups in both Karate and Judo which I attended and the coach would usually delegate a black/brown belt to take over the low belts after the drills were shown.no it isnt how it supposed to be. Of course there is teachning, the problem in bjj es the instruction. When you have a small class, you dont have enough members to do a beginners class and to do a advance class. So it gets messy, coach may not show fundamentals moves for quite a while so beginners have a hrd time learning stuff.
As posted later, I'm not ranked in BJJ, only in Karate and Judo, which explains why I don't get the BJJ way of doing stuff. Some posters explained the differences to me and the fact that it's normal to be a whitebelt for years. Different approach.Are you ranked?
Nowadays training only jiu jitsu its not enough to be good,you should work on your cardio(Jogging 4-5x per week),work on your mobility/Flexibility and of course your sthrenght.
I barely have enough energy for 4x week training but im 42 and white beltand how is that going to help him get through the white belt process?
now days, to be a world champ, jiu jtsu isnt just enough, I agree... hes not trying to become roger gracie though.
Most BJJ instruction is useless. If you aren't gifted and in the first group of students that join the school, you'll never get anywhere without a high IQ, most places, most of the time. You have to take matters into your own hands.
The best way is to get a basic grappling guide online or make your own by figuring out what the list of most useful BJJ moves are. Whatever you put together will be wrong, but it will be on the right track. Buy some BJJ private lessons from a purple or brown belt that's hungry to teach but will let you drill on him. Master the complete list of basics. Maybe a solid 6 takedowns and 100 ground moves, with multiple entries for the take downs, but only the easiest ones you can get by winning a grip fight.
After you do all that, you'll know enough BJJ to teach yourself for a long time.
I trained for about that long and didn't know how to do anything. After 2 years the only way I knew how to get out of side mount was by feeding my leg under them to encourage them to mount, then feed them and armbar so I could come up to my knees. It was horrible and I was never corrected. I didn't get better until I took an interest in the art and learned to teach myself and force the correct information out of purple belts.
Remember that most of these people who are good are either very smart, or were in the first batch of people that got a lot of private attention, or they started very young. They will tell you that certain skills will come with time and rolling, when they probably will not. You have to learn specific things, like how to hold your body in each position, where the best place for your hands are in each position, and how to hand fight into those positions. They won't tell you how to do those things, most places most of the time, unless you make them. You have to educate yourself so that you know what questions to ask.
A couple years ago I was training at a gym. One of my partners had competed 5 or 6 times and had four stripes on his white belt. He didn't know how to upa or recover guard from side mount. I taught him. It sort of made me mad. They weren't teaching the guy shit.