Ben Askren vs Jake Shields

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  1. JustBleed69 Touch-Butt Brown Belt

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    Both in their prime at 170, who wins?

    Inb4 not the fans because grapple-fest.
     
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    Shields by being far superior striker. And great scrambler.
     
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    Rousimar by torn ACL...
     
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    Shields though. Askren I do not like.
     
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    not the fans because grapple-fest
     
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    Askren is pretty solid and takes Shields any day. The real questions are:
    Askren vs Rory
    Askren vs Lawler
    Askren vs Woodley.
    Askren vs GSP.
    Askren vs Diaz.

    I picture Askren being competitive in every one of these five fights, but can he actually win them?
    I am not so sure.
     
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    Shields is my guess .

    Askren is wasted talent. Sad
     
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    I’d have to say Shields.
     
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    Askren. Shields' best work comes from top. He wouldn't get Askren off of him.
     
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    Jake Shields has wins over Carlos Condit, Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler, Jason Miller, Dan Henderson, Martin Kampmann, Akiyama, Tyron Woodley, and Demian Maia.

    Does that answer your question?
     
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    Shields a striker? LOL!! that fight "IF" would stay on the feet would look like Ronda sparring striking with another Ronda...shit
     
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    He could probably beat Diaz and MAYBE Lawler, but gets embarrassed by the rest.
     
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    Prime Shields is a top 3 all-time Welterweight for sure, but it's a tough matchup stylistically. Would probably favor Shields though.
     
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    At least in training he'd subbed Askren wherever he wanted while Askren couldn't do the same.
     
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    Shields beat Tyron Woodley and Demian Maia back to back. He beat Dan Henderson. Plus I don't think you are going to find too many Askren fans around here so most in this thread are probably going to say Shields. Shields was also the one that ended GSP's 33 consecutive rounds streak.
     
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    Shields, although I think "prime" Shields was at MW and not WW. He had a run of Lawler, Miller, and Henderson at MW. Very impressive.
     
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    Great vid. Obviously its just rolling in practice but Jake ain't no joke in the grapple dept.
     
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    Why is this in the UFC section?
     
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    The correct answer is Marcelo Garcia.
     
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    Good enough to keep Woodley on distance with his kicks...same will happen to Askren.
     
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