Amazing MMA Facts

[jeff7b9]

Well, technically we could say that for a large part of the Lesner fight he was destroying Brock, and then lost in the final minutes. I've never seen the Gonzaga fight, so don't know how that went, but he was putting a beat down on Brock for most of the fight...

I beg to differ.

The 1st round when he depleted his gas tank to 0 was precisely when he lost the Brock fight.

He just didn't know it yet.

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

Mikhail Ilyukhin - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I'm very proud of myself for knowing that.


Very well known, but the earliest proper and recorded MMA fight is Gene Lebell vs Milo Savage which is actually on sherdogs fight finder.

Ko.Sherdog.com used to exist. It covered K1 and the like.

Fight finder used to have small video clips and pictures available.

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

Murilo Bustamante had to submit Matt Lindland TWICE to win.

Matt pretended he didn't submit, he did.

Bustamante tapped him again right after.

 

[achoo42]

Mikhail Ilyukhin - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Same guy with a "half boston crab" win on his record.

 

[MCDojoMMA]

 

[Local Plata]

There's 18 volumes. Enjoy.

That's cool, but no voiceover and half of them sound like complete bullshit. 'Event staff decided to leave Tuli's teeth in Gordeau's foot and just bandage it' ... like yeah ... ok ...

 

[Richard Fannin]

Kazushi Sakuraba fought once in the UFC. The ref stopped the fight, but the Japanese protested and an immediate rematch occurred, which Sak won. This had never happened before or since in the UFC

Well, they only had like 2 tournaments after that one, so there hasn't been many chances to replicate the result...
(that was in 1997, and in 1998 they had a WW tournament won by Pat Miletich, and a MW tournament won by Dan Henderson)

For clarity's sake, the reason Saku and Conan had a rematch had nothing to do with the fact that "the Japanese protested", no one knew who Saluraba was, he wasn't even supposed to be here today, but Kanehara got injured so Sak was a replacement.

But since Tank Abbott had broken his hand beating on Yoji Anjo's thick skull (you might remember him as the Japanese pro-wrestler who challenged Rickson Gracie

), then was no one to fight Marcus Conan Silveira in the finale, and since Saku was the only participant in shape to fight again, he got another go at him.

Just wrtting those details because to someone not familiar with the story, it could sound like Sakuraba was this big star, calling shots and getting fights overturned.
He managed to do that later in the Sexyama greasing debacle, but at that point he was a big deal, so people actually listened.

... and now that I think about it, PRIDE did change the outcome of the Guy Mezger fight, and instead of calling it a draw like agreed upon if they reached the time limit, PRIDE officials decided to have an extra round, that Ken Shamrock hadn't agreed on.
And since Mezger was gassed, and Saku seemed to have endless stamina, it was a bad situation for the Lion's Den guys

But considering that Saku was also on the receiving end on some terrible referee calls and questionable judging, and was sorta sabotaged by Takada himself
(I'll post a few examples)
it's kinda mitigated...

-Saku got screwed over in the first Nino Elvis Schembri, fight, when "the Godfather of Gogoplata" headbutted him right on the chin (to be fair to Nino, it did look accidental on his part) which rocked Saku long enough for Schembri to clinch and land a few devastating knees right to his face, followed by soccer kicks even while the ref was trying to stop the fight

Saku would get a rematch eventually, that he'd win, but had that happened today in the UFC it would have been an DQ as soon as the Takada Dojo guys called BS and demanded that they review the footage and etc
PRIDE was happy with the result though, it was a huge upset and the rematch would sell well, let's not waste this and miss the opportunity to spam the KO on every DVD

-Saku had a tough time dealing with the Gracie family, and had to accept rulesets that would advantage the Brazilians, like no time limit, and other stuff that was always last minute and "it's either that or no fight"
And in his last MMA fight against a Gracie, the always game Ralek, Saku had him in a pretty deep Kimura when the referee decided to stop the action because they were too close to the... cage wall.
Yeah, it was when DREAM got a badass white cage so they should have let Saku work on that submission he had on, but the ref acted like there were ropes and the combattants were about to slip though them, and dragged them in the middle of the DREAM cage, where Saku didn't get to restart with his armlock.

That one annoyed me so bad ><

-Japanese refs arguably failed him a bunch of time, letting Smirnovas beat on a clearly done Saku for so long that he gassed, and Saku was able to get a win, but the price for victory was waaaaay too high.

Those were the days were we weren't seriously worried about concussions and the possibility of getting punch drunk from MMA was alien, it was just a boxing thing, "because these idiots punch each other in the head for 50 rounds and get a bunch of opportunities to get rocked, and get back up, but in MMA is you get dropped you get stomped a couple times and the ref steps in"

But even then lots of people were worried about the damage Saku had taken in that fight, added to the damage he took in previous fights like against Arona (in which his own corner called it quits since the ref didn't), Igor, or Wanderlei.
It was a tough time to be a IQ Wrestler superfan

-And that he would keep getting in the sadly controversial Saku vs Zelg "Benkei" Galesic, on which Sak got pounded on for so friggin' long that even if he did end up getting the sub
(and poor Benkei got his knees ligaments completely destroyed, he had to take a long break and wouldn't be able to fight for 2 years)

- One last thing, since that fight didn't really matter the outrage didn't last long, but if you were on Sherdog when the Saku vs Royce rematch happened, you'll remember that the decision was extremely unpopular, and 90% of sherbros had Saku winning that kind boring fight, and Royce would piss hot anyway so it was overturne, but that was another instance of "omg why does Japan hate poor Saku"

Oh well
I'm glad that the UFC put him in the HoF even though he only fought twice for that org, for the UFC 15.5 Japan GP
I love that QUINTET is back on tracks, and that after taking so many beatings at the end of his career, he was really able to do whatever he pleased with his submission wrestling org, got to do way more pro-wrestling
and be the guy able to help his once opponent, the Mad Dog Pro-Wrestler "

into international super-stardom

 

[Richard Fannin]

That's cool, but no voiceover and half of them sound like complete bullshit. 'Event staff decided to leave Tuli's teeth in Gordeau's foot and just bandage it' ... like yeah ... ok ...

Wait, isn't that exactly what happened?
That, to avoid having to deal with an open wound, they just bandaged his foot with at least 2 teeth stuck in the bone, and hoped for the best?
Or was Erik Krauss full of shit? <{chips}>

 

[Local Plata]

Wait, isn't that exactly what happened?
That, to avoid having to deal with an open wound, they just bandaged his foot with at least 2 teeth stuck in the bone, and hoped for the best?
Or was Erik Krauss full of shit? <{chips}>

Sounds like nonsense that teeth would be 'embedded' in a foot to begin with. Not to mention he would probably just squeeze them out real quick anyway. Can you imagine a doctor being like nah just leave fucking teeth in your foot to make 100% sure it gets infected, so you can continue fighting tonight, with fucking teeth in your foot.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

I'm very proud of myself for knowing that.


Very well known, but the earliest proper and recorded MMA fight is Gene Lebell vs Milo Savage which is actually on sherdogs fight finder.

Ko.Sherdog.com used to exist. It covered K1 and the like.

Fight finder used to have small video clips and pictures available.

The fight finder fight clips is how I found this site, its why I will always be a fan of Pele and Gilbert Yvel.

 

[ippikiookami]

Chael Sonnen believed in Santa Claus until he was 11 or 12

Chael breastfed until he was 9 years old

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Chael breastfed until he was 9 years old

He still poos his pants too

 

[SpiderCrawl]

Cyborg is the only fighter (at least in modern MMA) to win titles in four major orgs: UFC, Bellator, Strikeforce, and Invicta. PFL potentially gives her five major titles, which is impressive AF.

And she still gets zero respect cause she ugly

 

[MarcusAuerelius]

Ian Garry is the first MMA fighter to take on wife name, among other things

So the book how to become a HAB is coming soon?

 

[mixmastermo]

Rickson Gracie won the main event of the very first Pride FC event.

By armbar

 

[J Danger]

Here's an interesting one:

Shane Carwin won his first 12 fights in a COMBINED time of less than 20 minutes -- this includes wins over Frank Mir and Gabriel Gonzaga. Only two fighters lasted more than 120 seconds against him (until Brock and JDS).

Can anyone best that bit of trvia?

Brian Bowles finished Damacio Page with a guillotine at 3:30 of the first round in two separate fights.

 

[BOTTICELLI]

Ken and Frank Shamrock aren't biological brothers​

 

[BOTTICELLI]

Tank Abbott appeared in a Friends episode with Jon Favreau.​

 

[nonoob]

Wanderlei Silva gave Don Frye a piece of chewing gum.

 

[BOTTICELLI]

MMA's first Olympian was Mark Schultz in UFC 9