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Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Higus, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:42 AM.
What does that have to do with the OP numbskull?
Do you think pedophiles are choosing to be attracted to children? I see no logical reason to believe someone would make the conscious decision to make their lives a lot more complicated and difficult by being attracted to children. So if someone is born that way but realizes how messed up it is and doesn't want to act on it and wants help, why should anyone hate that person? That should be commended, especially considering how many pedophiles do act on it and don't give a shit.
A bunch of angry racist virgins on the internet are mean to women?
I am shocked.
Do you think racists who don't don't march with tiki torches or burn people of different colours at the stake should be commended?
To a large extent, yes.
The culture around pedophilia has less to do with sexual attraction, and more about brutality. A choice, to be malevolent and evil in the most purest, crystallized form possible. Outside of perhaps the odd exception, who never grew up from their childhood infatuations, these people are literal monsters who prey on the weak and receive pleasure from the power games, domination, manipulation and utter shamelessness involved with the cult of pedophilia, where children are groomed to be mentally and physically destroyed, as they themselves may have been.
A lot of pedophiles themselves are themselves the result of rape, violence and horrible up-bringing. Thus it leads one to believe that it has less to do with sexuality and more with violence and a general hatred for mankind.
A common saying among these child rapists is that "you got some before, now you get some back". It's just a cycle of violence and abuse. And it absolutely should never, ever be enabled, excused or encouraged in any way, shape or form.
When you start asking this question, which really needs to be the ground rock for any serious conversation on pedophilia, you find out how divided the opinion of average people is on the born that way/make that choice is.
Racism is a choice, a pedophile who is born with an attraction to children but doesn't want to act on it is overcoming a strong biological impulse because they know it's wrong.
I see no logical reason to believe someone would make the conscious decision to make their lives a lot more complicated and difficult by hating people of a different colour.
Cool never met or event talked to a real alt-right person, someone personating trolls online. But beware the boogyman, he's out there
Then how do you explain the people who don't want to act on their impulses and seek help for their attraction to children?
A fucked-up person can realize that they're fucked-up, and seek help.
He's saying that he was born that way in order to garner sympathy around the circles where sympathy has been commercialized and readily handed out (notice that he's not exactly going on Fox News with his bullshit). But realistically, we're probably talking about a sexual degenerate that simply went "too far" in his pursuit of extremities, within the safe cushion of internet anonymity, to the point where he could no longer control himself, or his urges. A lot of people do, it is what it is.
A pedophile is attracted to just about everything. But he simply cannot get the same kind of a "kick" out of a relationship with a physically and mentally grown, self-determining, no longer vulnerable adult, and in all truthfulness, he probably doesn't even have the ability to attract or control anyone, outside of a child that automatically looks up to him as an authority figure.
There are clear incentives for racism, like scapegoating a group of people for your own failings, I see no incentives for choosing to be attracted to children over having normal sexual attractions.
A fucked up person realizing they're fucked up and seeking help seems contradictory to the idea that they're making a conscious decision to be that way in the first place.
What is your proof that he is lying when he says he was born that way? I can't say for sure that he's telling the truth either, but it doesn't make sense to me that someone would choose to be that way.
Nothing contradictory about that at all. A lot of people feel guilty about making the wrong decisions, and hope to right the wrongs that they've made.
Men make decisions all the time. Just because they don't feel responsible about making them, doesn't mean that they aren't, in fact, making these decisions. A chain of apathy, irresponsibility, immorality, degeneracy, can lead you to a world of shit.
If it was a decision to be that way in the first place with no natural biological component then they wouldn't need help, they could just decide to not be that way. If someone naturally has an urge to overeat and always feels hungry, that's not something they can help, but they can choose to try and overcome those urges and try to get help. Nobody would choose to feel the urge to overeat all the time, and if they did they could easily just make the decision to not feel that way anymore.
Urges are manageable by men who possess the will-power required to exercise control over themselves.
To give into one's urges, and to descend deeper into degeneracy, and immorality, is a decision. Regardless of whatever urge that prompted one to do so. Hyper-sexuality in the case of most sexual degenerates.
There were human societies where girls were married off as early as possible to older men. Hell, there is even a very prominent religion around today which historically did so, and in some regions, still does. Were all these men simply "born that way" too? Or is it just that humans are, in many cases, the end result of decisions that they've made, or in the case of the weak-willed, decisions made in their stead?
You're coming across as lazy or as wanting to defend pedophiles.
You could be racist because the vast majority of your experiences with people of a given race are negative in a way that appears, from your limited perspective, to be proof-positive that negative racial stereotypes hold some validity.
You could have pedophile tendencies because - as we hear all the time regarding rape - sex is about power and, if you're a weak and exploitative degenerate, the only people over whom you can have power are the most vulnerable members of society.
You also sound as though you're operating under the delusion that pedophiles are only attracted to children.
Yes, exactly, and this person is resisting his natural urges because he knows they are wrong