Alabama Student Expelled For Online Racist Comments

[tehend]

Yeah, how weird that expressions of overt racism upset people...

Weird that any expressions upset people.

 

[Brampton_Boy]

She should be expelled, but not on the grounds of being racist (she's a scumbag as a person, but that shouldn't be the barrier to entry for a public university).

The issue facing the administration is that she is a disruption to the campus. It is in her best interest to be expelled, as any attempts to reintegrate back into the campus will be met with swift and brutal backlash by the student population. She will be heckled, taunted, and in all likelihood, assaulted (that behavior shouldn't be condoned, but it will almost certainly happen).

This is also one of the few instances in which I will agree with students who request having a safe space against someone who is an admitted racist. As a person of color who teaches at a university, I don't know how comfortable I would be with having her in my class. Would I treat her fairly? Will she treat me and her fellow students with respect? I don't want to have to worry about these things, my job is to teach, and any distraction from doing so is largely unwanted.

While I believe in free speech, there are consequences to everything we do in life. I actually don't know what a satisfying resolution would be, as expelling her is merely going to exacerbate her racial biases. If it was possible, I would force her to do a field work course in an inner city. I'm a big believer in "walk a mile in another man's shoes" to appreciate their perspective.

 

[tehend]

She should be expelled, but not on the grounds of being racist (she's a scumbag as a person, but that shouldn't be the barrier to entry for a public university).

The issue facing the administration is that she is a disruption to the campus. It is in her best interest to be expelled, as any attempts to reintegrate back into the campus will be met with swift and brutal backlash by the student population. She will be heckled, taunted, and in all likelihood, assaulted (that behavior shouldn't be condoned, but it will almost certainly happen).

This is also one of the few instances in which I will agree with students who request having a safe space against someone who is an admitted racist. As a person of color who teaches at a university, I don't know how comfortable I would be with having her in my class. Would I treat her fairly? Will she treat me and her fellow students with respect? I don't want to have to worry about these things, my job is to teach, and any distraction from doing so is largely unwanted.

While I believe in free speech, there are consequences to everything we do in life. I actually don't know what a satisfying resolution would be, as expelling her is merely going to exacerbate her racial biases. If it was possible, I would force her to do a field work course in an inner city. I'm a big believer in "walk a mile in another man's shoes" to appreciate their perspective.

If they're going to kick her out on the basis of being a disruption, that sets a bad precedent for free expression in college campuses doesn't it?

 

[7437]

she has a right to be a piece of shit, i hope she sues.

I hope she sues in no small part because it will make the news, and she will become permanently unemployable. Any employer who sees that rant after googling her name is gonna stay far away. Actions have consequences, and dragging things out can have more consequences.

 

[HIMBOB]

Freedom of speech not freedom from consequences.

Buck up princess.

Imagine it's the old bringing the school into disrepute in her enrollment contract

 

[Islam Imamate]

Weird that any expressions upset people.

Yeah man, like, why do people even get upset at all? Just, like, go with the flow know what I mean?

 

[tehend]

Yeah man, like, why do people even get upset at all? Just, like, go with the flow know what I mean?

Honestly. She didn't do anything but make noises with her mouth.

 

[Trotsky]

She should be expelled, but not on the grounds of being racist (she's a scumbag as a person, but that shouldn't be the barrier to entry for a public university).

The issue facing the administration is that she is a disruption to the campus. It is in her best interest to be expelled, as any attempts to reintegrate back into the campus will be met with swift and brutal backlash by the student population. She will be heckled, taunted, and in all likelihood, assaulted (that behavior shouldn't be condoned, but it will almost certainly happen).

This is also one of the few instances in which I will agree with students who request having a safe space against someone who is an admitted racist. As a person of color who teaches at a university, I don't know how comfortable I would be with having her in my class. Would I treat her fairly? Will she treat me and her fellow students with respect? I don't want to have to worry about these things, my job is to teach, and any distraction from doing so is largely unwanted.

While I believe in free speech, there are consequences to everything we do in life. I actually don't know what a satisfying resolution would be, as expelling her is merely going to exacerbate her racial biases. If it was possible, I would force her to do a field work course in an inner city. I'm a big believer in "walk a mile in another man's shoes" to appreciate their perspective.

It's Alabama, so I would temper expectations of backlash.

HOWEVER, the majority of Alabama's basketball and football teams are black. And that's where the school could get hammered. If the black student basketball players were to, say, refuse to dress in protest, that would threaten the school with losing thousands, even millions, of dollars. University of Missouri already showed just how much power the black athletes have.

It makes sense that the school wanted to cut out this cancer as early as possible.

 

[Brampton_Boy]

If they're going to kick her out on the basis of being a disruption, that sets a bad precedent for free expression in college campuses doesn't it?

College has stopped being a place of free expression for a while now. You are only allowed to protest if you are doing it in the name of a topical left leaning cause.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a left leaning academic who also happens to be a visible minority. However, I find the current climate of university campuses to be sickening. We now live in the "snow flake" generation, where it is more important to protect a student's fragile psyche, then force them to formulate and defend their own opinions, even if it is uncomfortable.

I'll get off my soap box now.

 

[tehend]

College has stopped being a place of free expression for a while now. You are only allowed to protest if you are doing it in the name of a topical left leaning cause.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a left leaning academic who also happens to be a visible minority. However, I find the current climate of university campuses to be sickening. We now live in the "snow flake" generation, where it is more important to protect a student's fragile psyche, then force them to formulate and defend their own opinions, even if it is uncomfortable.

I'll get off my soap box now.

It's ridiculous.

 

[shockaholic12]

Honestly. She didn't do anything but make noises with her mouth.

Yea and somebody could teabag you and you'd be cool as a cucumber because, hey, it's just skin. Like getting a high five. No reason to get upset.

Am I doing this right?

 

[Trotsky]

College has stopped being a place of free expression for a while now. You are only allowed to protest if you are doing it in the name of a topical left leaning cause.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a left leaning academic who also happens to be a visible minority. However, I find the current climate of university campuses to be sickening. We now live in the "snow flake" generation, where it is more important to protect a student's fragile psyche, then force them to formulate and defend their own opinions, even if it is uncomfortable.

I'll get off my soap box now.

Unless things are wildly different in Ontario than the States, you're full of shit and feeding hollow talking points.

In the States, virtually every campus has right-leaning political groups like Young GOP, FedSoc, Students Supporting Israel, pro-life groups, anti-socialist, even outright white nationalist groups. And just about all of them organize demonstrations. Do they trigger backlash sometimes? Fuck yeah, and that's the prerogative of their contemporaries.

Expelling students who openly and proudly use racial slurs and publicly tie it to their university, and even go so far as to say that they are entitled to do it because of where the university is (i.e. saying that Alabama is particularly fertile for racism), is not the same as banning right-wing "thought" or expression.

 

[tehend]

Yea and somebody could teabag you and you'd be cool as a cucumber because, hey, it's just skin. Like getting a high five. No reason to get upset.

Am I doing this right?

Yeah words and physical contact are the same thing.

 

[squeezewax]

So is it illegal to say that word in America?
When i first discovered people on the telly saying 'the n-word' i couldn't understand why adults were doing this, it seems so odd.
Yes its a very distasteful word but to ban it is ludicrous, you may and well ban swear words. To me its like treating grown people like kids. If everyone knows what the word is when someone on the tv says the n-word, if they say it in their mind, they may as well just say the thing.
Obviously saying it in an awful way is wrong, but if people wish to discuss the word in a calm, mature way, so be it. If someone isn't yelling it at a black person or saying terrible words along with it, it should be allowed to be said.
It no doubt is more serious in the States because of it's history, in all my life[58 yrs] i've heard it said over here in Oz a handful of times, hardly at all.

 

[shockaholic12]

Yeah words and physical contact are the same thing.

Cool so I am.

No sounds anyone makes with their mouth will illicit negative reactions from you? If some dudes sat at the table next to your girl, mom, or daughter and graphically described vulgar sex acts they'd like to perform on them behind the dumpster out back you'd just order dessert with a smile or would you stand up for your people?

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

The word stands for a lot of terrible shit.

Lots of words do

 

[tehend]

Cool so I am.

No sounds anyone makes with their mouth will illicit negative reactions from you? If some dudes sat at the table next to your girl, mom, or daughter and graphically described vulgar sex acts they'd like to perform on them behind the dumpster out back you'd just order dessert with a smile or would you stand up for your people?

Depends on what dessert is available I suppose. I don't need to prove anything, if someone wants to talk I'll let them talk. If someone wants to try something physically, I'm down for that too.

 

[shockaholic12]

Interesting case. School is public but relies on attracting students to enroll, which is a competitive endure. Having members of your student body sharing racist messages that reach the entire world can definitely harm your ability to do that.

 

[lifelessheap]

She should be expelled, but not on the grounds of being racist (she's a scumbag as a person, but that shouldn't be the barrier to entry for a public university).

The issue facing the administration is that she is a disruption to the campus. It is in her best interest to be expelled, as any attempts to reintegrate back into the campus will be met with swift and brutal backlash by the student population. She will be heckled, taunted, and in all likelihood, assaulted (that behavior shouldn't be condoned, but it will almost certainly happen).

This is also one of the few instances in which I will agree with students who request having a safe space against someone who is an admitted racist. As a person of color who teaches at a university, I don't know how comfortable I would be with having her in my class. Would I treat her fairly? Will she treat me and her fellow students with respect? I don't want to have to worry about these things, my job is to teach, and any distraction from doing so is largely unwanted.

While I believe in free speech, there are consequences to everything we do in life. I actually don't know what a satisfying resolution would be, as expelling her is merely going to exacerbate her racial biases. If it was possible, I would force her to do a field work course in an inner city. I'm a big believer in "walk a mile in another man's shoes" to appreciate their perspective.

They are just fucking words you pussy. My god. You teach our youth?


The future is bleak.


Sticks and stones is what I was taught.

 

[Seaside]

I am just going to guess all those kill whites and rape whites comments by people of black skin on youtube and twitter wont get them expelled.

Selective anger