International Would you say that the southern border is now "fixed?"

[oldshadow]

You can deport but if the border is not secure they just come right back.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

You can deport but if the border is not secure they just come right back.

What exactly do you think the words “border removal” mean?

Do you really believe that no illegal immigrants are getting in now? How? A wall? Nope, there isn’t one of those. And those never work for long anyway.
More agents? Enough to cover 1954 miles? I seriously doubt it.

Now, you could make the case that fewer immigrants are coming through now. I could buy that.
But that is pretty much irrelevant because most illegal immigration is just people overstaying their work or student visas.

The way to “secure the border” is to have more people working on evaluating asylum claims, and various other modes of immigration, to vet the people coming in and determine in a timely fashion whether or not they can become citizens.
Get them on paper, paying taxes (they already pay into social security and get nothing back), and make the ones who aren’t a threat into citizens.

 

[HereticBD]

Oh' my God, these cultists are now arguing that there's no difference in consequence between millions rushing the border, and nobody rushing the border.

Your brains are fried, lefties.

 

[oldshadow]

What exactly do you think the words “border removal” mean?

Do you really believe that no illegal immigrants are getting in now? How? A wall? Nope, there isn’t one of those. And those never work for long anyway.
More agents? Enough to cover 1954 miles? I seriously doubt it.

Now, you could make the case that fewer immigrants are coming through now. I could buy that.
But that is pretty much irrelevant because most illegal immigration is just people overstaying their work or student visas.

The way to “secure the border” is to have more people working on evaluating asylum claims, and various other modes of immigration, to vet the people coming in and determine in a timely fashion whether or not they can become citizens.
Get them on paper, paying taxes (they already pay into social security and get nothing back), and make the ones who aren’t a threat into citizens.

Bullshit under Biden the border was open in all but name. The border now has the lowest illegal crossings in a very long time. And thats because of more then one thing. Part of it being ICE doing their job.

The way to secure the border is to remove illegals, make it impossible to find work or get any benefits of any kind and close the border to the maximum extent possible.

Your and the democrats way is to let them come or stay illegally and make them legal.

I welcome those that come and stay legally. Otherwise kick them out don't tolerate line jumpers going around those that are doing it legally.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Bullshit under Biden the border was open in all but name. The border now has the lowest illegal crossings in a very long time. And thats because of more then one thing. Part of it being ICE doing their job.

The way to secure the border is to remove illegals, make it impossible to find work or get any benefits of any kind and close the border to the maximum extent possible.

Your and the democrats way is to let them come or stay illegally and make them legal.

I welcome those that come and stay legally. Otherwise kick them out don't tolerate line jumpers going around those that are doing it legally.

Ok, so can you provide data to back that up? You just keep repeating what Fox News, OAN, Trump, and other morons tell you. That the border was “open” under Biden.
What does that mean? Obviously it wasn’t just open because he deported plenty of people. So what constitutes “open?”

Anyway, the border isn’t the majority of the issue. It’s not people jumping the border that make up the majority of undocumented immigrants. It’s people who came in on visas and continue to stay once they’re up.

And we’re going to feel the effects of Trump’s immigration policy soon. Farmers are already feeling it. Between that and the tariffs, he has to spend a ton of taxpayer money to bail them out. Again. Because he didn’t learn the first fucking time.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

That was the important part is getting the border secured. He’s going overboard with the deportations though.

well now that the border is secured and those fentanyl-smuggling penguins are paying their tarriffs maybe now doe 174 can release those epstein files.

 

[Hog-train]

I'm actually impressed that we got a few maga folk that sees through this bullshit. Well done, sir.

Just because you want deportation of illegals doesn't make you MAGA. I didn't vote for Trump.

 

[ShadowRun]

Just because you want deportation of illegals doesn't make you MAGA. I didn't vote for Trump.

That guy is an idiot, but if you voted for Trump does that automatically make you MAGA?

 

[UberHere]

well now that the border is secured and those fentanyl-smuggling penguins are paying their tarriffs maybe now doe 174 can release those epstein files.

If only

 

[nostradumbass]

Ok, so can you provide data to back that up? You just keep repeating what Fox News, OAN, Trump, and other morons tell you. That the border was “open” under Biden.
What does that mean? Obviously it wasn’t just open because he deported plenty of people. So what constitutes “open?”

Anyway, the border isn’t the majority of the issue. It’s not people jumping the border that make up the majority of undocumented immigrants. It’s people who came in on visas and continue to stay once they’re up.

And we’re going to feel the effects of Trump’s immigration policy soon. Farmers are already feeling it. Between that and the tariffs, he has to spend a ton of taxpayer money to bail them out. Again. Because he didn’t learn the first fucking time.

I like how you accuse the other poster of "just repeating what morons tell you", then immediately after that just repeat a 10 year old "well ackshuallly" talking point. No, the majority of illegals are not visa overstays. Might have been the case during Trump's first term, wasn't even close to true for Biden's. Visa overstays are a bit over half a million with the majority of them leaving themselves in less than 180 days. Illegals coming across the border was in the millions every year under Biden, and they were never cleared for entry and came to stay permanently.

And data is border crossings down to about 4500 per month, and the average for Biden's whole term was 5,110 PER DAY. 1.6M have self deported this year, and ICE is on pace to have deported another 600,000 by the end of the year.

 

[UberHere]

Ok, so can you provide data to back that up? You just keep repeating what Fox News, OAN, Trump, and other morons tell you. That the border was “open” under Biden.
What does that mean? Obviously it wasn’t just open because he deported plenty of people. So what constitutes “open?”

Anyway, the border isn’t the majority of the issue. It’s not people jumping the border that make up the majority of undocumented immigrants. It’s people who came in on visas and continue to stay once they’re up.

And we’re going to feel the effects of Trump’s immigration policy soon. Farmers are already feeling it. Between that and the tariffs, he has to spend a ton of taxpayer money to bail them out. Again. Because he didn’t learn the first fucking time.

You got wrecked

 

[oldshadow]

Ok, so can you provide data to back that up? You just keep repeating what Fox News, OAN, Trump, and other morons tell you. That the border was “open” under Biden.
What does that mean? Obviously it wasn’t just open because he deported plenty of people. So what constitutes “open?”

Anyway, the border isn’t the majority of the issue. It’s not people jumping the border that make up the majority of undocumented immigrants. It’s people who came in on visas and continue to stay once they’re up.

And we’re going to feel the effects of Trump’s immigration policy soon. Farmers are already feeling it. Between that and the tariffs, he has to spend a ton of taxpayer money to bail them out. Again. Because he didn’t learn the first fucking time.

Open in all but name and then catch and release and then not going after over stays even after a deportation order was issued, that was Biden.

We have legal ways for farm workers to come here to work and have had for a very long time.