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Despite Rousey's success in MMA, Tate still feels she hasn't fully paid her dues.​


"Every single woman that fights MMA has done just as much work as Ronda has, we just haven't gotten as much turnaround," Tate told FOX Sports on Monday. "Those women who came before her haven
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Miesha Tate says she's done being 'pushed around' by UFC
By David St. Martin @SaintMMA on Sep 21, 2015

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Miesha Tate still seems peeved over losing her shot at Ronda Rousey.

Tate was penciled in to face the UFC women's bantamweight champ following her unanimous decision victory over Jessica Eye at UFC on FOX 16 in July, but it wasn't meant to be.

On Aug. 21, Rousey announced on Good Morning America that she'd be fighting Holly Holm instead. Tate found out when everyone else did.

UFC president Dana White spun the news saying it was in the best interest of Tate's career, but the contender responded by saying she was "offended" that White was "counting her out."

A few weeks removed from the bad news, Tate's relationship with the UFC doesn't sounds any less frigid.

"I think more things are going to have to be contractually agreed upon, not verbally," Tate told Ground and Pound TV. "That's what happens when you can't come to a verbal trust point. I'm going to have to have things written down from now on."

With the Rousey bout falling through, Tate had been rumored to be in talks to face Amanda Nunes. Tate denied the rumors during the broadcast of Invicta FC 14, saying her team hadn't been in contact with UFC officials.

"I'm very frustrated with the UFC," said Tate. "I'm not in a position where I feel like I need to be pushed around and, 'Oh, you take this fight, take that fight.' It makes no sense to me why I'm not the champion and yet I'm fighting all the No. 1 contenders. Amanda Nunes is ranked No. 4 and Holm is ranked No. 8.

"What is wrong with that picture? I'm not the champ and I'm fighting better girls than the champion is fighting and I'm not getting paid what the champion is getting paid. It's the champion's job to fight the best girls in the world. When I'm the champion, we'll talk."

Rousey most recently rolled through then-ranked No. 5 Bethe Correia Aug. 1 at UFC 190 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, scoring a KO in just 34 seconds. Last week, Rousey stopped by The Ellen DeGeneres Show and remarked that she was the UFC's highest paid athlete.

"I'm just in an awkward stage of my career," said Tate. "I don't know what the next best step for me is but I do know I'm not going to be pushed around by anybody."


http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/9/2...usey-dana-white-fedor-dynamite-kimbo-mma-news
 
i used to live in evansville...place is kinda dumpy
 
The Real Pedro said:
WMMA is a niche sport within a niche sport. Only a few technically impressive fighters like Ronda can make even most MMA fans take notice. Tate is missing the bigger picture. Without Ronda Rousey, most people wouldn't even know who Tate is.
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Cyborg/Carano was huge. Well before Dana said it was ok to start following WMMA and unleashed Ronda on us all.
 
She'll be pushed around and she grovel for it, too, once Dana starts shitting on her.
I think Tate has started believing her own hype instead of realizing she's just an above average wmma bw fighter. In the cage w/ Ronda and all of a sudden she looks much less than average. When your main claim to fame is you extended a fight longer than anyone else before you lost, for the second time, you probably should just be grateful for the chedda you ARE making.
 
It says what most know in the first sentence. The real reason: jealousy and delusions. No one gave a shit about Tate after the Ronda fight. No one gave a shit about WMMA before Ronda either. Ronda got all the press and love after her win over Tate. No one ever asked Ronda one question about Tate. Or any big WMMA "rivalry" with Tate. Ronda had already smashed her and moved on to bigger and better things.Most mainstream places that interviewed Ronda couldn't tell you who Tate was or what she looked like. Most probably still can't.

Conversely any interview Tate every didafter that(all small time MMA websites) was about Ronda, her armbar and how she's bringing WMMA to the forefront. Ronda and Carmouche also both got more press and love then Tate ever did. Her ass and Ronda's craziness are the only reason she's in this spot and now has a little publicity off Ronda's coattails. But Tate will be fielding questions about Ronda, her losses to her and Ronda's impact on WMMA her entire life.
 
A lot of women from the past 15 years deserve credit for putting MMA on the map.

Megumi had her small, but hardcore, following. Too bad she was pushing 40 by the time WMMA became big enough for the UFC to try it.

Gina Carano probably was the biggest factor in getting WMMA to be a big deal.
She's pretty enough that she has options and has mainstream appeal.
 
MaTaLa said:
She'll be pushed around and she grovel for it, too, once Dana starts shitting on her.
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Tate got screwed out of a Title shot, there's no doubt about it. But if she keeps on sulking and compare herself to Rousey, it wouldn't be long until the top brass pretends she never existed.

Instead, Tate should do something meaningful in the cage that would give people a reason to believe she actually has a chance at winning the third time. Finishing Nunes would certainly help towards that goal.

Otherwise, these stats say it all:

"Let's do a side-by-side comparison.

Rousey vs. Zingano - Rousey by Sub in 14 seconds
Tate vs. Zingano - Zingano by 3rd round TKO

Hmm...
Rousey vs. McMann - Rousey by TKO in 1:06
Tate vs. McMann - Tate by razor-thin Majority Decision
What else...

Rousey vs. Carmouche - Rousey by 1st round Sub
Tate vs. Carmouche - Tate by razor-thin Unanimous Decision

Rousey hasn't fought Eye and Tate hasn't fought Davis, but Davis and Eye fought to a "could've gone either way" split decision. So...

Rousey vs. Davis - Rousey by KO in 16 seconds
Tate vs. Eye - Tate by Unanimous Decision

We've also got some unheralded opponents who were either overrated and/or clearly outmatched:

Rousey vs. Correia - Rousey by KO in 34 seconds
Tate vs. Nakai - Tate by Unanimous Decision

There's also this:
Tate vs. Rousey - Rousey by 1st round Sub
Rousey vs. Tate II - Rousey by 3rd round Sub"

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/3lr3z6/miesha_tate_im_not_the_champion_yet_im_fighting/
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Honestly, as much as I dont like Ronda, it was pretty much her dominance that put WMMA mainstream with the UFC. I think she deserves the rewards
 
When people say it is the Olympics that help her marketing I think it only helps a little bit. It's Ronda's style of Judo, her skill level, and adapt it to MMA that got Ronda's her winsand her evolution has kept her wins going.

If Ronda was taking losses the Olympics wouldn't be helping her much.

The UFC would have a harder time marketing Ronda and would not invest in her like they do if she had 3 or 4 losses.

What has helped Ronda is not just that she wins she wins in dramatic fashion and leaves little doubt she is the better then her opponent. It is showing she is superior to who is the cage with her in dramatic fashion.

Everyone cannot be the champion. Ronda might not be a pioneer, she smashed the pioneers.

I think any of the girls would be riding the same wave if they dominated in the fashion that Ronda has.
 
WMMA is a niche sport within a niche sport. Only a few technically impressive fighters like Ronda can make even most MMA fans take notice. Tate is missing the bigger picture. Without Ronda Rousey, most people wouldn't even know who Tate is.
 
If Tate was 12-0, had only one person get out of the first round, finished all of her fights leaving no doubt she was better a lot of her fights in under a minute Tate would be in the drivers seat.

If the ugliest girl in the division would be doing all of this it might be a tiny bit harder but they wouldn't be able to deny someone who wins they way Ronda has done. Of course they are going to market a winner. They didn't just say "hey, lets market this blond chick"
 
orangecuse said:
It says what most know in the first sentence. The real reason: jealousy and delusions. No one gave a shit about Tate after the Ronda fight. No one gave a shit about WMMA before Ronda either. Ronda got all the press and love after her win over Tate. No one ever asked Ronda one question about Tate. Or any big WMMA "rivalry" with Tate. Ronda had already smashed her and moved on to bigger and better things.Most mainstream places that interviewed Ronda couldn't tell you who Tate was or what she looked like. Most probably still can't.

Conversely any interview Tate every didafter that(all small time MMA websites) was about Ronda, her armbar and how she's bringing WMMA to the forefront. Ronda and Carmouche also both got more press and love then Tate ever did. Her ass and Ronda's craziness are the only reason she's in this spot and now has a little publicity off Ronda's coattails. But Tate will be fielding questions about Ronda, her losses to her and Ronda's impact on WMMA her entire life.
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Well Gina was also very popular for a time. But you are missing the point. Ronda for the full force of UFC's PR machine, to an extent that most male fighters don't even receive. It's not a surprise that she became so popular when the UFC was doing everything they could to make it happen. I don't understand why they don't do this with all champs.
 
After losing conscience from a hard on I got from imagining myself patting Miesha on the back...

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...I can now say that I completely agree with her. Women deserved recognition way before. Ronda is the most dominant 135 pounder now, but when Dana fell in love with her, she was just a champion and one of the girls. The most annoying one at that.

Now, I don't like to watch women MMA because, I don't like to see them get beaten up, but I always respected their heart in fights. They go at it. I often wish that men would fight with the same fire today.

I said it at the beginning. The Ronda hype is horribly unfair to all the other female fighters.

Just because Dana got a hard on for her, she is the holly cow of women MMA.

Without other female fighters Ronda is nothing. Remember this.
 
WrestlinganJudo said:
When people say it is the Olympics that help her marketing I think it only helps a little bit. It's Ronda's style of Judo, her skill level, and adapt it to MMA that got Ronda's her winsand her evolution has kept her wins going.

If Ronda was taking losses the Olympics wouldn't be helping her much.

The UFC would have a harder time marketing Ronda and would not invest in her like they do if she had 3 or 4 losses.

What has helped Ronda is not just that she wins she wins in dramatic fashion and leaves little doubt she is the better then her opponent. It is showing she is superior to who is the cage with her in dramatic fashion.

Everyone cannot be the champion. Ronda might not be a pioneer, she smashed the pioneers.

I think any of the girls would be riding the same wave if they dominated in the fashion that Ronda has.
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Bullsh*t.

Cyborg was crushing girls too and because Dana doesn't mastrubate to her, she never even got a division in the UFC.
 
EliteLurker said:
Well Gina was also very popular for a time. But you are missing the point. Ronda for the full force of UFC's PR machine, to an extent that most male fighters don't even receive. It's not a surprise that she became so popular when the UFC was doing everything they could to make it happen. I don't understand why they don't do this with all champs.
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I agree but Tate has also gotten that full force as a bi-product of Ronda's star and hype. More-so then a mediocre fighter like her (1-2 recently) could usually get. Tate has only benefited from what you and her describe about Ronda.

This isn't a an interview or thread about Barao. Tate hasn't looked impressive at all since Ronda destroyed her arm in one round the first time. She's not even top-5. So similar to your thoughts not only does every male champ and male top-5 fighter deserve more hype and spotlight then Meisha Tate but so do most of the girls in the UFC that she's jumped to the front of the line over.

WMMA is in the UFC because of Ronda and that's it. Meisha is in the UFC because of Ronda. Meisha now undeservedly had TUF coaching gig, more hype/spotlight and big Co-main event. All because of Ronda. Also a little assist from herself, taking pictures of her ass in the bathroom when no one cared about her or WMMA. A WMMA pioneer indeed. Those are the reasons she is here. A distant third would be her hard work and time in the sport.
 
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kikikhan said:
After losing conscience from a hard on I got from imagining myself patting Miesha on the back...

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...I can now say that I completely agree with her. Women deserved recognition way before. Ronda is the most dominant 135 pounder now, but when Dana fell in love with her, she was just a champion and one of the girls. The most annoying one at that.

Now, I don't like to watch women MMA because, I don't like to see them get beaten up, but I always respected their heart in fights. They go at it. I often wish that men would fight with the same fire today.

I said it at the beginning. The Ronda hype is horribly unfair to all the other female fighters.

Just because Dana got a hard on for her, she is the holly cow of women MMA.

Without other female fighters Ronda is nothing. Remember this.
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You're all over the place here. You agree with Meisha because you get a hard on for her ass, but Dana getting a hard on for Rousey is a no no. You think women should have been getting recognition all along, but you dont really like to watch them. Rousey got undeserved recognition because she was "just a champion." The hype for Rousey is horribly unfair, but lets post more pics of Meisha's ass and hype up her talking points because... dat ass.

Sad truth is even with the highlight of WMMA being the Carano/Santos fight they werent getting recognized in a major way. There was going to be no UFC 145 (or even Strikeforce 145) in the near future after that fight because there was no depth at that weight class. Sad truth is without Rousey these women would be fighting for 5+5 maybe and you should remember that.

Should they have been getting recognition? Sure. But so should fighters from the early SEG UFC days, but you dont see anyone championing them here and you certainly dont see people like Bolanger, Hess, or even Abbott saying the hype machine behind someone like GSP back in the day was unfair to male fighters. You dont hear Coleman complaining about it, you dont even hear Tito complain about it and he complains about everything. We dont hear Karo complaining about how the UFC screws people out of title shots. We didnt hear everyone complaining when Frankie got a title shot in a class he didnt fight in, or all the Florian shots, or Faber shots.

Meisha was done wrong by the UFC in this instance, but Rousey didnt do it to her and there is a LONG list of people behind her in the 'screwed out of title shots' line who put their focus onto obliterating the next person the UFC instead of spreading sour grapes over the years.
 
Would like to see Tate get that belt. She probably won't, but i would LIKE that to happen
 
I'm sorry, but someone who changes her nickname from "Takedown" to "Cupcake" and gets breast augmentation to get more name recognition shouldnt be taken seriously as a champion for the women fighters cause. She went with gimmick and ass pics over finishing skills.
 
Miesha should be grateful to Rousey for moving WMMA forward. Ronda has impressive skill and a determination to finish her opponent that makes me look forward to seeing her fight. I really can't say that about Tate, or any of the other girls. Not yet, anyway. I always liked Kaufman's attitude and hockey-fight style too, but I never thought she or any of the other girls were impressive enough to break into the UFC without Rousey ahead of them. Carano would have worked, but that seems like so long ago.
 
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Metheus said:
You're all over the place here. You agree with Meisha because you get a hard on for her ass, but Dana getting a hard on for Rousey is a no no. You think women should have been getting recognition all along, but you dont really like to watch them. Rousey got undeserved recognition because she was "just a champion." The hype for Rousey is horribly unfair, but lets post more pics of Meisha's ass and hype up her talking points because... dat ass.

Sad truth is even with the highlight of WMMA being the Carano/Santos fight they werent getting recognized in a major way. There was going to be no UFC 145 (or even Strikeforce 145) in the near future after that fight because there was no depth at that weight class. Sad truth is without Rousey these women would be fighting for 5+5 maybe and you should remember that.

Should they have been getting recognition? Sure. But so should fighters from the early SEG UFC days, but you dont see anyone championing them here and you certainly dont see people like Bolanger, Hess, or even Abbott saying the hype machine behind someone like GSP back in the day was unfair to male fighters. You dont hear Coleman complaining about it, you dont even hear Tito complain about it and he complains about everything. We dont hear Karo complaining about how the UFC screws people out of title shots. We didnt hear everyone complaining when Frankie got a title shot in a class he didnt fight in, or all the Florian shots, or Faber shots.

Meisha was done wrong by the UFC in this instance, but Rousey didnt do it to her and there is a LONG list of people behind her in the 'screwed out of title shots' line who put their focus onto obliterating the next person the UFC instead of spreading sour grapes over the years.
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Did my admiration of Miesha's as* have anything to do with the rest of my post? No, it didn't.

I don't like to watch female MMA, but I was never against it. I honor their desire to compete in MMA.

I'm not all over the place. I still stand by my last post.
 
Tate would still fighting for breadcrumbs if not for Ronda. She's starting to let all the attention, that this manufactured beef w/ Ronda is producing, go to her head.

Too bad Cat got hurt.
 
Does it have to be a pat on the back? I'd prefer to pat her somewhere else
 
Tate used to be my favorite female mmartist, until the cat fight that is. I'm glad she got whooped on and I can't wait for Ronda to take her other arm.
 
Yeah like a thousand people already mentioned patting dat ass but seriously, she's been showing a ton of courage lately and deserves credit for it. I know she's just pissed off that she was promised a TS and isn't getting another crack at Ronda, but it still takes quite a bit of courage to basically call out the UFC for being full of shit.
 
MaTaLa said:
Tate would still fighting for breadcrumbs if not for Ronda. She's starting to let all the attention, that this manufactured beef w/ Ronda is producing, go to her head.

Too bad Cat got hurt.
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Word.

And if she loses again, which is likely, her 15 minutes might be up. 2 losses in a row, and 2 losses to the champ, will put her in a bad spot. It would suck to be the Rich Franklin of a women's division that's not even a year old yet.
 
Hungry Friend said:
Yeah like a thousand people already mentioned patting dat ass but seriously, she's been showing a ton of courage lately and deserves credit for it. I know she's just pissed off that she was promised a TS and isn't getting another crack at Ronda, but it still takes quite a bit of courage to basically call out the UFC for being full of shit.
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I keep doing it all the time, but nobody says anything about my courage:)

And my as* is hot too haha:P
 
I am neutral on this topic but I would love to know the number of people ITT and on Sherdog hating on Tate who are also Sonnen fans.
 
orangecuse said:
It says what most know in the first sentence. The real reason: jealousy and delusions. No one gave a shit about Tate after the Ronda fight. No one gave a shit about WMMA before Ronda either. Ronda got all the press and love after her win over Tate. No one ever asked Ronda one question about Tate. Or any big WMMA "rivalry" with Tate. Ronda had already smashed her and moved on to bigger and better things.Most mainstream places that interviewed Ronda couldn't tell you who Tate was or what she looked like. Most probably still can't.

Conversely any interview Tate every didafter that(all small time MMA websites) was about Ronda, her armbar and how she's bringing WMMA to the forefront. Ronda and Carmouche also both got more press and love then Tate ever did. Her ass and Ronda's craziness are the only reason she's in this spot and now has a little publicity off Ronda's coattails. But Tate will be fielding questions about Ronda, her losses to her and Ronda's impact on WMMA her entire life.
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orangecuse said:
I agree but Tate has also gotten that full force as a bi-product of Ronda's star and hype. More-so then a mediocre fighter like her (1-2 recently) could usually get. Tate has only benefited from what you and her describe about Ronda.

This isn't a an interview or thread about Barao. Tate hasn't looked impressive at all since Ronda destroyed her arm in one round the first time. She's not even top-5. So similar to your thoughts not only does every male champ and male top-5 fighter deserve more hype and spotlight then Meisha Tate but so do most of the girls in the UFC that she's jumped to the front of the line over.

WMMA is in the UFC because of Ronda and that's it. Meisha is in the UFC because of Ronda. Meisha now undeservedly had TUF coaching gig, more hype/spotlight and big Co-main event. All because of Ronda. Also a little assist from herself, taking pictures of her ass in the bathroom when no one cared about her or WMMA. A WMMA pioneer indeed. Those are the reasons she is here. A distant third would be her hard work and time in the sport.
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I think this 'nobody gave a shit about Miesha' angle you seem to be so fond of is you projecting your own feelings. You come across as short-sighted and ill-informed. Your love for Ronda and hate towards Miesha clearly clouds your thinking. I bet you're one of these that 'only gives a shit' about WMMA because of Ronda. There are some of us who were fans of WMMA and Miesha before we had ever heard of Ronda. Miesha brings up some very good points in that article, and still gives Ronda credit for what she has done in terms of the profile of WMMA.
 
i imagine someone already made the "backside" joke already, right?
 
There'd be no womens UFC division without Rousey so tate should be a bit more appreciative:redface:
 
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