Would kyokushin karate work in street fight?

[diet is boring]

Kyokushin karate practitioners don't punch to the head.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

untrained guys dont take body shots too well.

 

[zapataxiv]

only krav maga works or tma's that include extensive forms and weapon work

stuff like kyokushin will only hurt the practicioner

ever notice how all the sikido masters and krav maga guru's are barred from the ufc. that is by design it will shatter the matrix as well as dissuade the public when they see the level of blood shed that your average tma guy can unleash on sports guys

 

[SandisLL]

Kyokushin karate practitioners don't punch to the head.

They don't punch to the head in one specific rule set tournament format. Where vuala, full power kicks in head are allowed.


While KK gyms does have very high physical requierements and this alone without any combat technique will be huge problem for average joe.

Then next thing: they are able also grapple a bit and... sometimes does cross train in other arts.

With the same success you might asked question: does Olympic type weight lifting or modern power lifting works on the street?

From my life exp does work even these.
In one case guy delivered opponent in ICU and get court trial process.
In another case opponent had funeral.
Nice combat belt : Oly type weightlifting and powerlifting done by fitness trainer.
Combat mortal wombat = coffin and court.

 

[SandisLL]

Btw if about TMAs that does have semi contact tournaments ( it isn't post about KK !) for example they might have diferent approaches to power kicks and punches.
Some will train it to break boards, some just to hit air....some will gave even heavybag like for a pro boxer in training camp and tell to use full power and possible distance gaps with bare hands. .
To learn how to use power punching for SD for example.

 

[SandisLL]

Kyokushin karate practitioners don't punch to the head.

Yup according to you.
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Mum had bought next device and you get new VPN provider.
We will have a lot of fun for free time here with you and your clones.

 

[jx820]

Against someone untrained in any martial art... absolutely. There are certainly factors that may limit it's effectivenetss (e.g. In a crowded environment footwork and throwing kicks can be limited, is everyone sober, are weapons involved) but generally I'll pick the trianed guy to win every time.

 

[Christian Woodward]

I pop in this from time to time as a Kyokushin practitioner I think I can answer this.

Depends on the individual. I don't care if you train Kyokushin / Muay Thai / Boxing / BJJ / Wrestling / Judo etc. These train live which prepare you from somewhat of real life altercations. Nothing prepares you for actually combat. Yes in a dojo / gym / mats and we apply it but there is always a stop point i.e. I get rocked "stop" I get slept " stopped and checked on" Submission hold " Tap". In a real situation those are normally out the door so it causes stressors that people do not normally deal with. It's the person who knows how to use fear and channel it in to controlled aggression that usually has the upper hand.

I will take a trained person any day of the week of any style as long as there is contact involved and things become second nature. As for Kyokushin there is a glaring hole of no head shots....in tournament format. Not everyone trains for tournament not every dojo is just sport oriented. My dojo is ran by some police officers. We do bare knuckle 1/2 the time other half we have on 4 ounce MMA gloves and throw head punches. You learn really quick to slip and parry punches or your nose does not feel too good. We combine aikijujitsu which our Shihans instructor Hanshi Don Buck learned. In turn less like aikido and turns more into Judo when throwing punches and kicks. We fight multiple opponents from time to time so 2 or 3 on one...full speed..it sucks. Trust me its not like the movies.

In essence you find a good school of anything that trains hard, has contact...and not one hit stop...you should win or lose do decent in a street altercation.

Also Kyokushin is a art with Budo...we try not to be in a place or get into a street fight if we can help it...guns and knives don't care what rank or how good you are. \

Best advise don't be in a situation or area where street fights happen. First defense in your shoes i.e. run. If it comes down to a altercation you cant get out of..Strike first No mercy ...sweep the leg.

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Yes.

 

[Vil7]

Yes.

Damn I forgot how brutal Gordeau's heel stomp finish was. I wonder if he broke Rosier's ribs.

 

[JohnPJones]

untrained guys dont take body shots too well.

Or head kicks

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Damn I forgot how brutal Gordeau's heel stomp finish was. I wonder if he broke Rosier's ribs.

Rosier gave a cheerful interview after the fight, so it's possible the ribs were not broken. But Rosier squirming like he's getting disemboweled while Gordeau casually walks away is savage like a video game feedback animation.

 

[mr.sandman]

Ofcourse. Everyone can punch a little have you learned it or not. Set up your kicks , kick him in the body, to face , when he falls down stomp on his head. You have to think what tools you have and how to use them. As kyokushin guy i think you have good kicks. If its winter and very slippery outside and your wearing non stretch dress pants maybe it wont work so good. But if you can kick the opponent in the head or liver in devastating fashion and power, ofcourse it will "work".

 

[SandisLL]

When I was teen we had one challenge game.
You should be dressed like for to work in office and do running on the ice.
Running on the ice had meaning to be able to run on ....prepared for competition ice hockey level surface without falling down ...
Distance like 300 yards on the ice in row.
IMHO it is level average lad from da tech Streets might achieve .....

 

[Tayski]

Phyiscal and mental toughness go a very long way in a street fight. Kyokushin guys don't quit easily at all and are used to endure pain and fight back. It's a nightmare match-up in the streets to be honest, regardless of technique.

 

[WDSTK]

Kyokushin karate practitioners don't punch to the head.

jI disagree that Kyokushin practitioners don't punch to the head. I train in Shidokan Karate which has 3 parts, Kyokushin style bare knuckle karate, kickboxing/muay thai and grappling (we train in judo and some jujitsu). During Karate classes, we punch to the head on the bag, pads and drills but usually do not spar to the head (we have kickboxing/mauy thai classes for that). If we do, we put on sparring gloves. However you are expected to take kickboxing for that. .In the Karate classes, We are extensively taught to block punches and kicks to the head as well as perform punches/elbows, open hand strikes, spear hands etc. I would say it is head punching is easily over 50% in our karate class. There is a competition aspect to our training and a self defense. aspect and I expect a Karate school would train in head strikes if they emphasize self defense at all. What kind of idiot would teach self defense and leave out punching to the head. Even in the TKD school I went to, we did hard sparring to the head. You are correct that the bare knuckle karate tournaments do not allow punches to the head. However the bare knuckle matches are grueling and I think would help you in a fight They are very different than a boxing or a kickboxing match and more related to winning by attrition than technical skill. I lost a boxing match due number of punches (taps) I got hit with although I clearly hurt my opponent more. In a bare knuckle tournament, you only get credit for techniques that hurt your opponent and nothing for something that just lands. With that said, I think a well trained Kyokushin practitioner would just cover up and throw their techniques in a fight. So the fight outcome would be due to the quality of the fighter and not the art. I think Kyokushin karate with judo would be awesome for self defense especially if the practitioner competed full contact in those 2 arts. We have some karate/judo guys I would never want to fight especially in close quarters. Could say the same for some judo guys. My instructor believes that competition is the best way to learn self defense. I agree cause I cannot/will not street fight nor am I a bouncer, police or miltary. I have heard it say for a loss, "he had good technique but could not handle the violence". Many karate guys that are very good don't compete due to the violence. However I believe with all things equal, a boxer has the best hands and a clear advantage if just a fist fight. Anyway, in self defense, what are the odds you will meet a trained fighter so your art you train in extensively will probably suffice unless the guy is just a natural bruiser.

 

[shincheckin]

Absolutely, kyokushin is similar to Muay Thai. Good luck finding a legit kyokushin gym in the US. I looked into it and was only able to find karate daycare, which is unfortunately what karate has become in the US for the most part.