Why use hammer fist's for GnP instead of knuckles?

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I was just wondering why people use hammer fist's for GnP when i strike someone on the ground i use the same type of punch as when im striking them in stand up i don't really see the purpose of hammer fist's except protecting the hand from breaking but how much damage do they do? Like are they more dangerous then knuckle strikes? Do they do more damage? I just don't see the benefit of hitting with the mushy part of the hand instead of the knuckles except protecting it from breaking but if ur worried bout it breaking why not elbow strike?

 

[chino0503]

cause it's quick... and it hurts like hell.

 

[random shot:]

cause it's quick... and it hurts like hell.

Really? does it hurt more than knuckles though? i think palm strikes would hurt more than hammer fists although i have never been hit by one or trained in using them but just the way it feel so mushy i dunno

 

[Undead GnP]

Beside being quick and hurting (pretty much any punch will hurt if you do it hard enough) it doesn't require you to rear your whole arm back.

 

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Beside being quick it doesn't require you to rear your whole arm back.

So in essence your saying it's more sharp short burst's which allow you to control your opponent on the ground as opposed to pulling your arm back and reigning down big powerful blows which gives them more of a chance to escape the bottom?

 

[Killzone2]

Really? does it hurt more than knuckles though? i think palm strikes would hurt more than hammer fists although i have never been hit by one or trained in using them but just the way it feel so mushy i dunno

Yeah, ive always wondered why we dont see more palm strikes for the GnP. Theres no padding there, so that does help increasing the damage.

 

[mjw1]

It is less likely to break than the knuckles is true.
It also hits at a different angle in respect to the shoulder and movement of the arm in general.

Then again what is more effective the knife or the gun? It depends on the situation at hand....

 

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Yeah, ive always wondered why we dont see more palm strikes for the GnP. Theres no padding there, so that does help increasing the damage.

I think it's more a style thing like in boxing and MT you don't learn palm strikes and majority of guy's in MMA come from styles that don't teach them but guy's with backgrounds in TMA's use them for e.g Bas Rutten who does Karate used palm strikes in his match with Kevin Randelman from the bottom.

 

[chino0503]

I think it's more a style thing like in boxing and MT you don't learn palm strikes and majority of guy's in MMA come from styles that don't teach them but guy's with backgrounds in TMA's use them for e.g Bas Rutten who does Karate used palm strikes in his match with Kevin Randelman from the bottom.

thats cause he believes at that distance it's more effective to palm strike them with that bone on ur wrist... no padding. i also wonder why more people dont do it....

 

[suizuri]

Because Donkey Kong has proven its effectiveness against crocs.

 

[chino0503]

It is less likely to break than the knuckles is true.
It also hits at a different angle in respect to the shoulder and movement of the arm in general.

Then again what is more effective the knife or the gun? It depends on the situation at hand....

best answer so far.... besides the less likely to break part.... ive hammer fisted someone before and my shit was sore/swollen for a minute..... but then again... this was before i started training, so that might have something to do with it.

 

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thats cause he believes at that distance it's more effective to palm strike them with that bone on ur wrist... no padding. i also wonder why more people dont do it....

Yeah he believes it cause that's what he learnt in Karate and more people don't do it cause they just don't train styles that teach it IMO.

 

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ive hammer fisted someone before and my shit was sore/swollen for a minute..... but then again... this was before i started training, so that might have something to do with it.

I doubt it unless you started training in a style that conditions that part of your hand like MT guy's condition there shins lol it will always be sore and swallon training or no training.

 

[fightingrabbit]

Really? does it hurt more than knuckles though? i think palm strikes would hurt more than hammer fists although i have never been hit by one or trained in using them but just the way it feel so mushy i dunno

at short range, the hammering motion adds even more impact to the punch. hammer fist your own skull like seven times and tell me that the damage you accumulated wouldnt have you dazed.

 

[surfer dude]

Hammer fist and palm heel can be very effective standing too. Everything is situational, and they both have their place in a strikers "arsenal of weapons"

 

[shinkicker]

at short range, the hammering motion adds even more impact to the punch. hammer fist your own skull like seven times and tell me that the damage you accumulated wouldnt have you dazed.

Thats it a nutshell - you get more leverage.

Try to imagine driving in a nail using the top end of the hammer by driving your arm outward like a jab / straight and then driving a nail in flaying the hammer in a typical hammer use way.

 

[chino0503]

I doubt it unless you started training in a style that conditions that part of your hand like MT guy's condition there shins lol it will always be sore and swallon training or no training.

im pretty sure having your hands professionally wrapped also helps....

 

[chino0503]

at short range, the hammering motion adds even more impact to the punch. hammer fist your own skull like seven times and tell me that the damage you accumulated wouldnt have you dazed.

hell yeah... watch the cheick kongo vs velasquez fight.... he took like 200 hammerfist.... he couldnt even stand up at the end of the fight... he tries to get up and stumbles on his ass cause he's so damn dizzy.

hammerfist are very effective... might not knock you out but will shake you up good.

 

[N3xt_in_line]

I was at one of jeff joslin's seminars and he was saying its better because especially when on the ground you use your weight and leverage better with hammerfists, and they are somewhat looping which have more of a chance of knocking out your opponent than straight punches. Also from personal experience short fast hammerfists are much more disorienting and harder to defend than high hard straight punches. I find they are also really good for setting up a huge elbow

 

[chino0503]

^^ makes complete sense. mma is something i havent gotten to yet so when it comes to gnp.. i dont know shit.