Why isn’t BJ Penn in the GOAT conversation?

[Ecstasy]

I mean obviously you can’t make an argument of him being the clear #1 GOAT but there has to be an argument that he’s a Top 5 GOAT when you look back at his performances and the names he beat

Gave 225 lb Machida a run for his money, should’ve had a W over GSP the first fight but was robbed, 2 Division champ with 3 defenses (broke the record for most LW title defenses) etc

BJ Penn is a Top 5 GOAT

 

[Reach4theSky]

Most talented fighter I've ever seen. He was born to fight..

Newbs will look up his record on FightFinder and declare that he sucks..

 

[chinarice]

I am not sure you understand the term GOAT.

 

[qw3rty]

Top 5:
Fedor, GSP, Silva, Jones, Aldo.

Maybe Top 10/15:
Cruz, MM, BJ, Hughes, Lidell, Khabib, Cormier, Miocic, Couture, Hendo...

(Not in order).

 

[Sakurabaism]

Should have hang up the gloves after his second fight with Frank. Idk about top five, top 10 I can get down.

 

[VulcanNervPinch]

He fought in the wrong weight class a lot and fought so so so so so far past his prime that no one under 40-50 can remember how good he used to be.

 

[Aberlour]

Pioneer yeah, top 5 GOAT nope.

 

[Zanmato]

He was not dedicated enough to his own development as a fighter and instead seemed to have coasted on natural talent and fought for too long, putting in some embarrassing performances at the end of his career. I don't think he invested the same effort into being a great as many of the others mentioned in these lists.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Regardless of his record post Prime

the real fans know that skill wise, p4p, he is right up there with the best to ever do it.

Ask every GOAT candidate on that list, you'd struggle to find one who doesn't consider him one of the best fighters of all time.

 

[accolyte1022]

Most talented fighter I've ever seen. He was born to fight..

Newbs will look up his record on FightFinder and declare that he sucks..

November noob.....



























Never liked the guy, but he did have ridiculous natural talent. He was also tough as anyone.

 

[orgazmo]

 

[Mahkor]

 

[Reach4theSky]

no one under 40-50 can remember how good he used to be.

 

[MescalineDreams]

He fought in the wrong weight class a lot and fought so so so so so far past his prime that no one under 40-50 can remember how good he used to be.

Yup

That's the thing as well

Put him in his natural weight class and he goes undefeated for most of his career.

 

[accolyte1022]

That guy was hopped up on SPAM.

 

[BigTruck]

Most talented fighter I've ever seen. He was born to fight..

Newbs will look up his record on FightFinder and declare that he sucks..

I've watched all of those loses. All good fights.

 

[POWER2]

I mean obviously you can’t make an argument of him being the clear #1 GOAT but there has to be an argument that he’s a Top 5 GOAT when you look back at his performances and the names he beat

Gave 225 lb Machida a run for his money, should’ve had a W over GSP the first fight but was robbed, 2 Division champ with 3 defenses (broke the record for most LW title defenses) etc

BJ Penn is a Top 5 GOAT

 

[D'z]

He IS in the GOAT discussion. It's just that he's on the outskirts being overshadowed by the likes of Anderson, George, and Fedor.

 

[Sakurabaism]

He fought in the wrong weight class a lot and fought so so so so so far past his prime that no one under 40-50 can remember how good he used to be.

I'm 26 so you're wrong.

 

[TallGHunter]

Why you ask?

To the death Georges....

BJ, you want dis fight? 'BJ.... BJ