Why is the overhand right/left so effective in MMA?

cos in Boxing they are trained more to look for it and expect (it's called the Sweet science for a reason)
 
The gloves are smaller, it can get true the guard easier and harder to block.
 
cos in Boxing they are trained more to look for it and expect (it's called the Sweet science for a reason)
Nope. By your logic, hooks, jabs and such shouldn't be effective because they are trained to look for them.

It is mostly due to how more open mma is, and also the smaller gloves.
 
Skill is certainly one issue although the size of the gloves and the potential for distraction with a higher number of threats are others.

The reality is most boxers aren't like Floyd, they depend alot more on high hands but either neither guy wearing large gloves the potential for a looping punch to sneak though is much greater.
 
The overhand right works in mma because of the dip down as its being thrown.

In mma you have to be concerned for the takedown. This punch looks like the begining of a shot which allows it to land because people will drop there hands to defend the td.
 
I think it happens because boxers don't need to worry about takedowns and other MMA techniques, so they are less exposed to an overhand.
 
once you touch em with teh jab, everything else falls into place...
 
Nope. By your logic, hooks, jabs and such shouldn't be effective because they are trained to look for them.

It is mostly due to how more open mma is, and also the smaller gloves.

I don't care about any of that.
 
The overhand and the double leg look the same for the first split second which is all you need to get a reaction from the opponent. There's a reason that wrestlers tend to get really good at that punch and have a shitty jab.

Opponent drops his hands slightly when you change levels for a TD and BAM all the sudden a punch from up top just looped around. This might not be the case 100% of the time but the differing role of the level change in mma has a huge effect on it
 
You don't see it nearly as much in boxing or kickboxing
It's a Hail Mary tactic in MMA...quick and effective, if and when it lands.

In boxing, that extra split second it takes you to come over the top could result in you taking a nice uppercut.
 
Because if done right it rains down from the heavns unseen until it lands with such fury you'll think you're at home laying on the sofa, 20 seconds later you realize you're not at home and it's not the sofa you're laying on...
 
It ISN'T so effective, hardly anybody in MMA knows any solid boxing fundamentals, that's all.

A lot of people only throw overhand lefts and rights because that's all they know.
 
if someone charges at you, they can be doing a number of things.. Going for a takedown, clinch.

So you don't hold your hands up as much, because you've got to worry about grappling.. leaving yourself open to punches that normally wouldn't land.
 
Lots of ways to feint and bait them into overhands too since its mma. Btw why it isn't on the striking discussion forum ?
 
It ISN'T so effective, hardly anybody in MMA knows any solid boxing fundamentals, that's all.

A lot of people only throw overhand lefts and rights because that's all they know.
load of rubbish. if you train combat sports you train combat sports. You have a lot of people in MMA w striking backgrounds that get outstruck and plenty of striking experts that come to MMA and get KO'd.

Cerrone was supposedly 25-0 in Kickboxing and had a title yet got tooled by people like RDA, Pettis, Diaz, Even barbosa was lighting him up. Varner dropped him, so did Mccollough and even the other Cowboy was doing well before it hit the ground.

MMA fighters can box.... kickbox.... etc. Just go watch Mousasi, Overeem, Hunt, in K1. I believe even genki sudo did some k1 with some degree of success and you've had just so so so many mmartists with boxing careers that were succesful that failed to capitalize in MMA striking....
 
overhand punches have been a part of boxing for a long, long time.
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Because instead of learning how to perfect to slip a punch for hours on end, they have to spend their time on 5 other disciplines and worry about numerous other things in the stand up.
 
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