Why is BJJ and MMA training so expensive?

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I went to Brazilian Top Team for a free lesson and afterwards I asked them how much it was monthly. They told me $200!!!! That's almost my fucking car payment! My boxing gym in Long Beach was only $80, and the boxing gym I went to in Denver was only $60 a month. Why do they make the barriers to entry so high for MMA and Jiu Jitsu? I think this wil prevent the sport from growing.
 
no idea but worth the money for good instruction

also it is a trend right now
 
easy...
The demand for BJJ and MMA training is going nuts and not enough Good quality/ legit gyms/clubs ...
The demand is higher than the service so they charge big time :)
 
keep in mind that this mma surge is pretty recent, but boxing has been around much longer as a sport. many mma gyms train people in bjj, boxing, muay thai, wrestling and mma, so when you look at it that way you're really joining 5 gyms in one. over the next few decades you'll start seeing less dojo's and pure boxing gyms and more mma type places, but not necessarily sport type.
 
it's supply and demand.
also, bjj attracts serious competitors as well as the white collar types. a lot of lawyers. drs, accountants and programmers want to do bjj and they want to do it in a nice place.
 
I think the difference is in part, boxing gyms are usually run like a normal gym. Compared to a BJJ or mma place that is run more like a school. In a boxing gym you could show up and just hit the bag for hours with little or no guidance or instruction and it would not be uncommon.

In BJJ/MMA most places have a set time for class' where there is a qualified instructor not only on hand but also giving all students individual attention @ some point.
 
maybe because their facilities and instruction are top notch?

also because mma is popular and one of the fastest growing sports?
 
I don't get it either. Ari Bolden offers the same product for free online.
 
First I think $200 is over the top for almost any school

But having said that, running any business is expensive. You have to keep in mind everything that goes into starting and keeping the business open.

Startup Costs. Mats, Rings, Octagons, heavy bags, etc. are expensive.

Insurance. I'm sure liability insurance for a BJJ/MMA gym is pricey.

Utilities. Business don't pay the same rates that you do at home. Business rates are significantly more.

Advertising. Something else that is super expensive. Yellowpage ads alone can easily be over $1000 per month. Add in other forms of advertising such as the internet, etc. can really run up the bills.

Association/Franchise Fees. Another thing that can cost a MMA school alot of money.

Instructors. With a BB taking on average 10 years to get, that's the equivalent of having a Doctorate level education. Quality Instructors are a commodity and don't come cheap.
 
Boxing coaches make nothing. They either run non-profits, have 100 cardio women on direct billing at low cost/month, or have cheap gyms to attract thugs, who they will eventually snag 1/100 to hook themselves to and take a significant portion of their purse.

They make nothing because nobody is going to pay you $200 a month to get socked in the mouth. Most people who want to smash faces and get smashed have nothing.

BJJ attracts a lot of working professionals. Is it the price that makes the difference? These people have the cash to box, but they choose to spend more on bjj.

One huge factor is MMA, and mma athlete backgrounds. Many people who enter bjj do so because they identify with fighting and fighters. They do not identify with boxing, due to cultural, educational, ethnic and racial backgrounds.

I believe that the reason for the cost of BJJ training is partly "because they can" and partly due to the difference in structure of training. Unlike boxing, which builds a pool of varying talent into a few profitable members, bjj is more like a TMA, where there is no end big-money competition. A coach isn't likely to make any money off of his student's performance. Factor in that "they can afford it" and that it's the hot thing right now, and you have high fees.

A lot of established gyms have over 100 members paying over $100 a month. How many employees do they have? How many hours are they open? What utilities do they use? What expenses for other amenities do they have? What is their monthly rent?
A lot of these answers are not much.

I think prices will fall when the mma bubble busts, but hell, some places still pull off charging big cash for kids tma's.
 
Flounder said:
First I think $200 is over the top for almost any school

But having said that, running any business is expensive. You have to keep in mind everything that goes into starting and keeping the business open.

Startup Costs. Mats, Rings, Octagons, heavy bags, etc. are expensive.

Insurance. I'm sure liability insurance for a BJJ/MMA gym is pricey.

Utilities. Business don't pay the same rates that you do at home. Business rates are significantly more.

Advertising. Something else that is super expensive. Yellowpage ads alone can easily be over $1000 per month. Add in other forms of advertising such as the internet, etc. can really run up the bills.

Association/Franchise Fees. Another thing that can cost a MMA school alot of money.

Instructors. With a BB taking on average 10 years to get, that's the equivalent of having a Doctorate level education. Quality Instructors are a commodity and don't come cheap.
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Yea $200 is insane highest I've seen for BJJ was $140. Some schools offer plans that let you come only two times a week.
 
At the end of the day $200 isn't actually THAT much money if you're going fairly often. I can easily find ways to save $200. If you can't find $200/month anywhere, you're either a single parent or retarded. Get a weekend job or a night job somewhere, wait tables 2 nights/week or some shit. You're probably forking over $30-$40/month on the internet, quit paying, steal it from your neighbor and find $160 to save somewhere else. You go out to eat? spend $6-10 on lunch? Buy your own ingredients, for $20 you can have sandwiches or salads for a week for lunch.

It's pretty sickening seeing people bitch about money here and there, yeah it's a shitty economy, find a way to deal with it.
 
I will agree that the cost of training is not a serious issue to me. If I found out that my dues were going up $40 a month, I would probably not leave my gym. I would probably look for training alternatives, but once you are hooked on grappling, you'll change your lifestyle if needed.

Coaches know this as well, lol.
 
Boxing coaches get paid on their fighter's purses. Most people doing BJJ are not out fighting for money, hence higher fees.
 
Boxing coaches get paid on their fighter's purses. Most people doing BJJ are not out fighting for money, hence higher fees.
 
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