Why don't more guys push?

[dmwalking]

I've noticed that a lot of times when guys are getting teed off on, they just cover up and absorb punishment. When I've sparred and eaten a good punch I would just step in and use my two hands to give them a good shove to back them up and force a reset while I back and circle away. I'm a total noob so maybe this is a bad tactic.

Can someone explain why it's a bad tactic. Or if it's good to do that, why don't more fighters use it?

 

[j123]

Its telegraphable, I would rather do a stiff arm instead. Both arm shove is a invitation for nasties.

Its better to clinch up or interrupt with strikes and get out asap

 

[spacetime]

I've noticed that a lot of times when guys are getting teed off on, they just cover up and absorb punishment. When I've sparred and eaten a good punch I would just step in and use my two hands to give them a good shove to back them up and force a reset while I back and circle away. I'm a total noob so maybe this is a bad tactic.

Can someone explain why it's a bad tactic. Or if it's good to do that, why don't more fighters use it?

Foreman and Overeem have used various pushing and throwing maneuvers to show who's the alpha. The reason you don't see it very often is because the strength discrepency is too small. In order to use this tactic successfully, you need to be quite a bit stronger than your opponent. It also doesn't award you any points, so why waste energy on it

 

[Pope Leo VII]

Its telegraphable, I would rather do a stiff arm instead.

able to cover up with the opposite arm, and its just tasty to follow up with a rear kick

 

[Frode Falch]

I sometimes do this weird elbow push from a high shoulder roll as i pivot out from a corner..

Kinda hard to explain

 

[Christian Woodward]

Depending on who I am sparring and trying to maintain distance a push can be used effectively. If im reading correctly to what Frode is saying with his he uses a pivot with elbow push to create distance to not get trapped in the corner and make distance so he doesn't get cut off.

I've used pushing when sparring with someone smaller than me to work my outside game and not take the punishment from inside game. Same goes to if I want to trap someone in a corner where I have cut someone off and used more of a stiff arm to jam them there so I can try to blitz them. But that is more for when doing boxing. In Mauy Thai a teep is basically your push for distance.

In Kyokushin if you are close enough to push them you are close enough to hit them (self explanatory).

As for when shelled up and trying to two hand push someone off of you. That leaves you open to overhand rights, hooks to the head and body, etc. Rather eat some shots on my forearms, gloves, elbows than eat a nice hard shot to the temple, jawline or sternum.

 

[ctrlaltdelete]

Pretty sure pushing as well as some other moves like stiff arming are illegal in boxing. Its up to the ref how much to allow, if it is intentional , when to give warnings etc. Kind of like holding, or holding and hitting.

 

[Christian Woodward]

Pretty sure pushing as well as some other moves like stiff arming are illegal in boxing. Its up to the ref how much to allow, if it is intentional , when to give warnings etc. Kind of like holding, or holding and hitting.

Stiff arming is frowned on. Its a bully tactic and I have used it a bit to put myself in advantageous positions. I honestly don't condone it in boxing gives a tall person a advantage and you can get points deducted. I don't spar for the ring honestly. I train for protecting myself in a altercation due to bad area I live in. In a fight there is no rules so the motto "Cheat early and cheat often" is the lay of the land. So as for boxing you shouldn't do it. As for pushing nothing illegal to get out of a clinch with a push to get back into boxing range.

 

[RabbitPunch36]

I sometimes do this weird elbow push from a high shoulder roll as i pivot out from a corner..

Kinda hard to explain

Are you pushing there body with your lead elbow?

 

[Hotora86]

Machida does a blitz + push and circle off combo to avoid getting countered but pushing when you're already under attack seems too risky, as you're opening up even more.

 

[Frode Falch]

Are you pushing there body with your lead elbow?

Yeah. Or the lead elbow guide them in the right direction. My body weight and pivot is the force.

Almost taiji inspired.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

I do this fairly often along with stiff arming. I like to use a cross arm guard sometimes and if they try to flurry ram into them with my forearms then use that to set up an attack. I like to throw a lead hook to the body or a hook low kick combo.

 

[4daLuLZ]

Yeah. Or the lead elbow guide them in the right direction. My body weight and pivot is the force.

Almost taiji inspired.

Easy there, Han. A lot of boxers do this.

 

[Frode Falch]

Han?

 

[eternaldarkness]

Foreman and Overeem have used various pushing and throwing maneuvers to show who's the alpha. The reason you don't see it very often is because the strength discrepency is too small. In order to use this tactic successfully, you need to be quite a bit stronger than your opponent. It also doesn't award you any points, so why waste energy on it

plus it's actually illegal in boxing

 

[Sinister]

I've noticed that a lot of times when guys are getting teed off on, they just cover up and absorb punishment. When I've sparred and eaten a good punch I would just step in and use my two hands to give them a good shove to back them up and force a reset while I back and circle away. I'm a total noob so maybe this is a bad tactic.

Can someone explain why it's a bad tactic. Or if it's good to do that, why don't more fighters use it?

Pushing is illegal in boxing. Just speaking for boxers

 

[eternaldarkness]

Pushing is illegal in boxing. Just speaking for boxers

what tactics would you recommend in place of the push. i know a lot of old school fighters used to grab the waste and spin, which seemed to be an effective tactic.

 

[spacetime]

plus it's actually illegal in boxing

Open gloves, holding, pushing - all illegal, yet rarely enforced between elite competitors. Heck, Tyson elbowed Spinks in the clinch (which seriously dazed him).

 

[eternaldarkness]

Open gloves, holding, pushing - all illegal, yet rarely enforced between elite competitors. Heck, Tyson elbowed Spinks in the clinch (which seriously dazed him).

that would be true. lets just say it's not very sporting. you though tyson was good. fenech had the best elbows in boxing.

 

[dudeguyman]

I've noticed that a lot of times when guys are getting teed off on, they just cover up and absorb punishment. When I've sparred and eaten a good punch I would just step in and use my two hands to give them a good shove to back them up and force a reset while I back and circle away. I'm a total noob so maybe this is a bad tactic.

Can someone explain why it's a bad tactic. Or if it's good to do that, why don't more fighters use it?

Pretty sure pushing as well as some other moves like stiff arming are illegal in boxing. Its up to the ref how much to allow, if it is intentional , when to give warnings etc. Kind of like holding, or holding and hitting.

Fuck rules.