Why don't MMA fighters use the 'front choke'?

[gizmo J]

I've never seen a MMA fighters do this.

 

[JabToucher]

If the "chocker" left their chin up in teh air like the guy on the left, no wonder it isn't utilized more!

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Banned when Tom Erickson beat Matt Skelton

 

[Jose Beehive]

Banned when Tom Erickson beat Matt Skelton

Do you know why?

 

[hohner]

*Rape choke

It's been used

 

[SFMMA]

In fairness, I get TS’s concern. His neck looks similar to that of an adolescent chicken.

 

[Woldog]

Do you know why?

People die during sex from front choke holds. The potential to do damage to an artery is far greater when you have pinpoint pressure (fingers digging into your neck) it's much more dangerous than a chokehold in that regard. Not to mention you then have 180lbs of pressure getting pushed directly onto your throat. Not exactly ideal for safety.

 

[Oceanmachine]

What about a front rear naked choke? That isnt rear

 

[closequarters]

From guard or standing, you would get armbarred. From half guard or mount, you would get reversed and be on bottom.

 

[Jose Beehive]

People die during sex from front choke holds. The potential to do damage to an artery is far greater when you have pinpoint pressure (fingers digging into your neck) it's much more dangerous than a chokehold in that regard. Not to mention you then have 180lbs of pressure getting pushed directly onto your throat. Not exactly ideal for safety.

I understand that, but what about that fight made it banned? He taps to it, he's not out.
Also I guess the same rules apply to a forearm choke as we never see them either, but how come a shoulder is okay? like a Von Flue Choke seems very similar, maybe i'm wrong.

Edit:
Presume this is illegal ?

But this is not.

 

[Woldog]

I understand that, but what about that fight made it banned? He taps to it, he's not out.
Also I guess the same rules apply to a forearm choke as we never see them either, but how come a shoulder is okay? like a Von Flue Choke seems very similar, maybe i'm wrong.

Edit:
Presume this is illegal ?

But this is not.

I'll be honest Sherbro. I have no idea.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

It's illegal per the Unified Rules

 

[IloveTHIS]

I understand that, but what about that fight made it banned? He taps to it, he's not out.
Also I guess the same rules apply to a forearm choke as we never see them either, but how come a shoulder is okay? like a Von Flue Choke seems very similar, maybe i'm wrong.

Edit:
Presume this is illegal ?

But this is not.

A forearm choke like in your first pic is legal

 

[Amerikuracana]

People die during sex from front choke holds. The potential to do damage to an artery is far greater when you have pinpoint pressure (fingers digging into your neck) it's much more dangerous than a chokehold in that regard. Not to mention you then have 180lbs of pressure getting pushed directly onto your throat. Not exactly ideal for safety.

 

[GSP_37]

They don't wanna get flying armbarred?

Why didn't Poirier use Jones/McKenzie choke grip against Khabib?

 

[Jose Beehive]

A forearm choke like in your first pic is legal

Ah cheers for confirming, do you have any examples of this winning a fight?

 

[IloveTHIS]

Ah cheers for confirming, do you have any examples of this winning a fight?

cant think of any resulting in a finish off the top of my head, so in stead I present to you this:

 

[faustian]

Do you know why?

Supposedly Mark Kerr's Pride contract stipulated that he refused to fight Erikson

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Do you know why?

I could be remembering incorrectly...
But I thought there was concern of throat cartilage cracking or something like that. That in instances of strangling by gripping the actual throat that there can be potentially lethal results.

I’m not saying this is true.... I really don’t know. But I have a vague memory of that being the concern.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Cheers all!

The reasons behind banned moves are always interesting, i'd like to see a fully compiled list with reasons why, does such a thing exist?

Should this be illegal ?