Why are KO's more common in kickboxing than boxing?

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Are they using the same ounce gloves? It seems like in kickboxing people get dropped from punches significantly more than in boxing? Why is that? Less padding?

A lot of boxing fights go to a decision with plenty of leather landing on the head but in kickboxing it feels like a fighter is lucky to absorb 5 punches and make it to the second round.
 
Shorter fights, fighters on average arent as slick, not to mention theyre encouraged to go all out.

If the fights were longer alot of guys would probably be more inclined to take their time like Boxers do in the opening rounds. In the case of kickboxing there is no feeling out period.

Actually another thing id mention is that something like half of Boxings divisions are below 147 which is right around the weight of Glorys smallest division, so guys are bigger aswell.

And how can i forget this, head kicks and knees are way more powerful than punches. There are still more punch knockouts than any other kind, but it can still contribute too the percentage.
 
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Are there more KO's in kickboxing than boxing?
I didn't notice this personally, but if this is true, I would imagine it's because boxers have a lot more experience protecting their heads by blocking or moving so that the strike doesn't hit full force. Anyone with a good boxing background should have a fair defense for head strikes.
 
You have to consider the weight classes, like Floyd Mayweather is like fighting at 145lbs, what weight class are you watching in kickboxing.

Actually a lot of it has to do with efficiency. Boxers only use hands, and must not blow all their energy otherwise if they have no more gas/power left in their hands, they will almost certainly lose if they gassed their arms out. So they have to conserve a bit more energy and causing dodges/evasion to be a good part of the success in boxers.

In Kickboxing, you can use your legs for kicks which limits a lot of ducking and head movement directions because they can get caught easily with a knee, upkick, or just a roundhouse kick to the head if they choose to bob their head. Kicks are stronger than punches, about 2x-3x more power. They set up with kicks to the leg, and if a kickboxer becomes flatfooted because their leg or thigh is damaged, they receive more power transferred to their head. This is because they cannot pivot or divert the punch/strike.


Or a more easier view is that boxing is 1dimensional, and kickboxing is as much as 3x the game of boxing. More methods of finishes. More setups are available, more choice of angles, making it harder to predict or see strikes coming as to boxing which you can only expect punches. Ultimately, some have compared boxing and MMA, and that MMA has way more methods of finishing a fight than boxing does, and so statistically speaking and mathematically logical we should expect more finishes in MMA. In my opinion, there would be a higher finishing rate in UFC if they used a square ring instead of a hexagonal cage.
 
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Its the rounds. Pro boxers need to pace themselves, they fight for 10 or 12 rounds. Kickboxers only fight for 3 or 5 so they can go all out. Theres probably more dangerous mistakes you can make in kickboxing too, keeping your hands too low, not checking a leg kick, blocking a head kick with one hand, all these things can get you knocked out. You have less areas to be hit in boxing so its easier to defend.
 
Personally I am judging on live fights I have seen. Smokers, ammy and pro. Not from TV. I have seen way more KO's by punches than kicks. Seeing a KO by kick is like a super treat.

Kicks maybe are supposed to be more powerful, but there are people who punch harder than some kicks for sure. It just depends on the person and what they're good at. My punches are probably more powerful than my body and head kicks.
 
gspdiaz209 said:
You have to consider the weight classes, like Floyd Mayweather is like fighting at 145lbs, what weight class are you watching in kickboxing.

Actually a lot of it has to do with efficiency. Boxers only use hands, and must not blow all their energy otherwise if they have no more gas/power left in their hands, they will almost certainly lose if they gassed their arms out. So they have to conserve a bit more energy and causing dodges/evasion to be a good part of the success in boxers.

In Kickboxing, you can use your legs for kicks which limits a lot of ducking and head movement directions because they can get caught easily with a knee, upkick, or just a roundhouse kick to the head if they choose to bob their head. Kicks are stronger than punches, about 2x-3x more power. They set up with kicks to the leg, and if a kickboxer becomes flatfooted because their leg or thigh is damaged, they receive more power transferred to their head. This is because they cannot pivot or divert the punch/strike.


Or a more easier view is that boxing is 1dimensional, and kickboxing is as much as 3x the game of boxing. More methods of finishes. More setups are available, more choice of angles, making it harder to predict or see strikes coming as to boxing which you can only expect punches. Ultimately, some have compared boxing and MMA, and that MMA has way more methods of finishing a fight than boxing does, and so statistically speaking and mathematically logical we should expect more finishes in MMA. In my opinion, there would be a higher finishing rate in UFC if they used a square ring instead of a hexagonal cage.
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Basically this.

I honestly think that the most important factor is the variety of attacks in kickboxing.

As the post above mentioned, there are only two weapons being used in boxing; the right and the left hands. In kickboxing you usually have 6 or 8; hands, feet/shin, knees and elbows, depending on the rules.

This means the fighter has a lot more to worry about defensively. Get him worried about you leg kicks, he's going to be less likely to see the punch coming and vice versa.
 
kicks are harder than punches, also a lot more ways to trick an opponent into opening up.
 
Kickboxers have to look out for kicks to legs, body, and head as well as knees to go along with the same punches that exist in Boxing. More opportunities to be open.
 
Boxing KO's are as common or more common if you factor in a fighters first 20+ fights before he steps up the competition, but I assume TS is talking about high level boxing. Well, they are more disciplined than kickboxers for the most part, better coordination and just higher quality fighters.

Look at Petrosyan, he doesn't fight like a typical kickboxing tard, but has some of the same qualities of a top boxer, and doesn't win by KO often, same for Levin. There are few in kickboxing, but you'll notice these types are the best.
 
I'm curious what the ratio is. Even in MMA I see way more KO's with punches than kicks. Can we get any facts on this?
 
Cocakillbana said:
Look at Petrosyan, he doesn't fight like a typical kickboxing tard, but has some of the same qualities of a top boxer, and doesn't win by KO often, same for Levin. There are few in kickboxing, but you'll notice these types are the best.
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It's your right not to like (or even hate) kickboxing, but why won't you even try to spar some of these "tards"? Might change your mind...:cool:
 
TonyK said:
It's your right not to like (or even hate) kickboxing, but why won't you even try to spar some of these "tards"? Might change your mind...:cool:
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They would beat my ass, I know that for fact. The thing is they are viewed as world class fighters, I'm not.
 
Cocakillbana said:
Boxing KO's are as common or more common if you factor in a fighters first 20+ fights before he steps up the competition, but I assume TS is talking about high level boxing. Well, they are more disciplined than kickboxers for the most part, better coordination and just higher quality fighters.

Look at Petrosyan, he doesn't fight like a typical kickboxing tard, but has some of the same qualities of a top boxer, and doesn't win by KO often, same for Levin. There are few in kickboxing, but you'll notice these types are the best.
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The head and foot movement that keeps you safe in boxing simply doesn't work in kickboxing. With kickboxing you have to open up more, regardless of skill.
 
Kozzy2 said:
The head and foot movement that keeps you safe in boxing simply doesn't work in kickboxing. With kickboxing you have to open up more, regardless of skill.
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But...Murica...Boxing...
 
Cocakillbana said:
They would beat my ass, I know that for fact. The thing is they are viewed as world class fighters, I'm not.
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Some of them are not, some of them are. Calling them names isn't gonna' change anything. Kickboxing is one sport, Muay Thai is another, there are successful crossovers, there are less successful ones, both ways. I really don't get your antagonism towards an entire sport sometimes.
 
TonyK said:
Some of them are not, some of them are. Calling them names isn't gonna' change anything. Kickboxing is one sport, Muay Thai is another, there are successful crossovers, there are less successful ones, both ways. I really don't get your antagonism towards an entire sport sometimes.
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this

I read that yodkhunpon was a top ten stadium fighter at some point but against an inexperienced guy in varga he got totally schooled.....yodkhunpon had nothing for him

he disappointed me but then again it shows that kickboxing is not the same as mt

can't post a new thread anymore, if I could I would have opened one asking what mt featherweight from thailand should be brought in because I don't see yodkhunpon achieving much

he would get wrecked by the japanese stand outs or guys like mosab amrani and liam harrison
 
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