Why are 12/6 elbows not allowed? you can generate way more power with the elbow to the side

[AlanGregson]

Tittle says all.... You can also hit inside the eye just as well with the side elbow, its also kind hard to do when someone is moving their head around trying to not get smashed...

 

[ConditFan]

Archaic rule

 

[myjohnson9]

Because your mother hates you

 

[Wizzlebiz]

Ice pick blaa blaa blaa

Breaking boards with it blaa blaa blaa

 

[BigTruck]

Everything legal depending on who's reffing. Browne hit Gonzaga with 12-6 elbows to the back of the head and that was ok.

Edit: watch the last 2 and his elbow not forearm. Regardless of 12-6 they are clearly to the back of the head.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Tittle says all.... You can also hit inside the eye just as well with the side elbow, its also kind hard to do when someone is moving their head around trying to not get smashed...

I remember an episode of the Helwani show and he brought herb dean on to talk about some rules that fans don’t understand. This is one of them. And herbs response was that it’s a dated rule that at some point they may over turn.

I guess the logic behind the rule was the commission put the rule in place because they saw those brick breaking demonstrations and there was a misconception that the 12-6 elbow could break a human skulls obviously, that’s not the case. And as we’ve seen many fights there are much more dangerous strikes, but it’s currently in play because it’s an antiquated rule that was never removed by the commission.

 

[cade187]

IIRC the logic is that a 12-6 elbow has the potential to do serious damage to an opponents eye/eye socket, but I don’t know of any examples where that has ever happened.

 

[Breaking]

It’s not just about raw power. It’s about surface area at the point of impact.

12/6 elbows guarantee that all of the force that’s delivered goes through the pointiest part of the elbow. That equals a greater potential for acute damage.

side elbows usually distribute that energy across at least part of the forearm, so the impact is more spread out.

Both can cause serious damage, of course. But statistically speaking, 12/6 elbows would be sending more people to the hospital.

 

[Zaar]

Everything legal depending on who's reffing. Browne hit Gonzaga with 12-6 elbows to the back of the head and that was ok

I always felt side elbows like that in the clinch, but to the side of the head, were the same as 12-6 ones *shrug*
I'd like to hear serious explanation why they arent, though.

 

[20falarVerdades]

You can break ice with 12/6 elbows, imagine what it'd do to an eye socket

 

[Fossor]

Because people who make rules don't know shit about the subject.
But it is better this way, unless you want everything to be disabled.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

After walking away from my phone I remembered a discussion that it was being looked at right around when mma was getting pushed to be legalized in NYC. I believe NY said they wouldn’t legalize mma if 12-6 elbows were legal

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

You can break ice with 12/6 elbows, imagine what it'd do to an eye socket

But that can be said about any elbows or front kicks

 

[MakeSherdogGreatAgain]

It was those brick breaking demonstrations where those guys were jumping and breaking like 20 bricks with their elbow. Big John helped make the rules to get mma sanctioned and said that was a necessary rule to get the athletic commissions to sanction mma.

It's a dumb rule since nobody is gonna lay still and let someone land a jumping 12/6 elbow on their face, but it had to be made to get mma legalized.

 

[TheJohnnyWalkerEra]

This guy made the rule

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Because your mother hates you

 

[Taric]

Everything legal depending on who's reffing. Browne hit Gonzaga with 12-6 elbows to the back of the head and that was ok

... You need to look at a clock sometime.

 

[Fahcough]

Your eye ball only takes damage at 12 to 6 oclock, so just accept fights after 7

 

[Taric]

The 12/6 elbow rule is definitely dumb. A spinning elbow generates more torque than anything you can do stationary.

 

[BigTruck]

... You need to look at a clock sometime.

I feel you are watching his fists and not his actually elbow. Most are 2-7 but the last 2 are 12-6 AND my biggest point is right to the back of the head. Also I only own digital clocks so stop being a dick.