Who are the 5 best american grapplers in MMA history?

[orca]

Consider fighters in their prime
He had some moments in his caree where he's in good shape

i still dont consider him a top mma grappler
hes not well rounded enough
he aint jones level or gsp or khabib who is a more well rounded mma grappler

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Dan Severn, no one even close to him. You could probably put everyone on your list together and they still wouldn't have the wrestling accomplishments and MMA accomplishments that Severn has. He's had more wrestling wins and MMA wins than they've had hot dinners

 

[Necrocrawler]

Dan Severn, no one even close to him. You could probably put everyone on your list together and they still wouldn't have the wrestling accomplishments and MMA accomplishments that Severn has. He's had more wrestling wins and MMA wins than they've had hot dinners

Yeah
But mostly against cans.
And in the early days, even though he had some submissions wins, he already gave interviews that he didn't actually know what he was doing lol.

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Better P4P? I don't know. But I judge fighter's by their career, legacy and era in which they fought. Hughes did more. Cejudo had some layoffs in his career and didn't fight as much. He also didn't have single win by submission, while Hughes had multiple submission finishes. Hughes was a great all-around grappler for his era who added a strong BJJ/submission game to his wrestling.

And that's what this thread is about: grappling. It includes all aspects: wrestling, submissions, submission-defense, etc. Some of the best wrestlers don't qualify due to poor submission defense. And some of the best submission artists don't qualify because they had weak TDs and couldn't always get the fight to the ground.

I think Cjudo taking DJ down so many times and not being threatened by Mighty Mouse great bjj was pretty impressive for me. Not even Sterling could sub him being bigger and younger

 

[itz reggie]

BJ PENN
JON JONES
FRANKIE EDGAR
MIGHTY MOUSE
FRANK MIR

 

[SuperNerd]

R3

 

[blewgums]

GSP is Canadian

That's the most racist thing I've ever heard.

 

[blewgums]

Take your racism somewhere else.

Elitist honkie.

When did GSP become a US Citizen?

 

[blewgums]

AMERICAN GRAPPLERS

You racist bastard.

We don't need that kind of hate here.

 

[Sms_productions713]

Did we go this far and no one mentioned Ryan hall either? This thread is still everywhere. We’re about 2 pages away from someone saying tank abbott

 

[KungFuCow]

Ya'll sleeping on Robert Drysdale even tho he only had 1 UFC fight that was tossed for him failing a drug test.

 

[joy2day]

Competitively?

Kayla- Gold X2
Kevin Jackson- Gold
Schultz- Gold
Cejudo- Gold
Lindland/Romero/Mcmann/Saunders/Madsen- Silver

 

[Aldo145]

BJ, Hughes, Shields, Fitch, Hendo imo

 

[froggyluv]

By no means am I fan of Dirtbag Dan, but he was pretty thoroughly hurt by the time Anderson got his back.

Why DirtBag?

 

[Fight Professor]

Karelin had an MMA fight

 

[Skarsgard]

Why DirtBag?

Overall douchebag of a person, late shots after every KO, and the PED use.

 

[froggyluv]

Overall douchebag of a person, late shots after every KO, and the PED use.

only remember the Bisping one. PED's...meh, all those MF's use em in one way or another

 

[stiltfoxx]

Just by their performance/grapple application in the octagon

IMO:

1 - Jonesa
2 - DC
3 - Demetrious
4 - Shields
5 - BJ Penn

I think Weidman, Mir, Cain, Sterling and Cejudo are pretty close

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