Which Regional Promotion...

[DougieJones]

Has been most successful in sending fighters to the UFC?

LFA? CW? Jungle Fights? Ares? Combate?

 

[Ara tech]

Some guy had claimed that ACA fighters have the highest percentage wins into the UFC. Is that true, who knows.

ACA is the number one org in russia, and in asia in term of roster depth.

Talents can come from everywhere, and those metrics would change everywhere, some small orgs went bankrupt or disappeared, hard to make metrics, harder even to update them.

Per country and not per org, Russia is the prospect factory number one.

 

[DougieJones]

Some guy had claimed that ACA fighters have the highest percentage wins into the UFC. Is that true, who knows.

ACA is the number one org in russia, and in asia in term of roster depth.

Talents can come from everywhere, and those metrics would change everywhere, some small orgs went bankrupt or disappeared, hard to make metrics, harder even to update them.

Per country and not per org, Russia is the prospect factory number one.

When you are trained and mentored by a savage fighting god like Kadryov they SHOULD be the best!!! That guy makes the UFC MW champ bend over with the snap of a finger!

 

[Ara tech]

When you are trained and mentored by a savage fighting god like Kadryov they SHOULD be the best!!! That guy makes the UFC MW champ bend over with the snap of a finger!

ACA has nothing to do with Kadyrov, was created by people outsider of him. He just attended events to increase his own image and to entertain himself with his some fighters that he sponsors.

You can say, fuck Kadyrov, I would understand but from an MMA perspective, he sponsored fighters, he developed gyms, the game benefited out of him. That's it.

Kadyrov is an external positivity to MMA. Khamzat is a winner, since he got rich and is his protegee. A win win for everyone, who is the one who did not really win something big out of his petty sport washing and political recovery.

When the US pushed sanctions against ACA, it's saw it's youtube channel delete. Getting 2 cents from Kadyrov is not the best endeavor, having ties to him is not good for the business since he is no pro west but a kremlin puppet.

You need to watch your step with that kind of guy.

 

[DougieJones]

ACA has nothing to do with Kadyrov, was created by people outsider of him. He just attended events to increase his own image and to entertain himself with his some fighters that he sponsors.

You can say, fuck Kadyrov, I would understand but from an MMA perspective, he sponsored fighters, he developed gyms, the game benefited out of him. That's it.

Kadyrov is an external positivity to MMA. Khamzat is a winner, since he got rich and is his protegee. A win win for everyone, who is the one who did not really win something big out of his petty sport washing and political recovery.

When the US pushed sanctions against ACA, it's saw it's youtube channel delete. Getting 2 cents from Kadyrov is not the best endeavor, having ties to him is not good for the business since he is no pro west but a kremlin puppet.

You need to watch your step with that kind of guy.

oh I thought he was one of the owners lol

 

[Ara tech]

oh I thought he was one of the owners lol

Kadyrov has no political success whatsoever, why ? Simply because he do not know what to do with power, and is mediocre.

So to entertain himself, and to appear succesful, as he likes to show off a lot on social media, what is he doing, he forces successful chechens to appear with him, it is a win for them, since they are getting a good solid sponsor and it is a win for the sport.

Kadyrov is the only one not gaining anything significant here.

 

[PrideNverDies]

KSW. Jan, Arman, Gamrot, etc.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

Strikeforce

 

[DougieJones]

KSW. Jan, Arman, Gamrot, etc.

They have a good chance to add to that with Wiklacz and Ruchala

 

[rollthedice]

Some guy had claimed that ACA fighters have the highest percentage wins into the UFC. Is that true, who knows.

ACA is the number one org in russia, and in asia in term of roster depth.

Talents can come from everywhere, and those metrics would change everywhere, some small orgs went bankrupt or disappeared, hard to make metrics, harder even to update them.

Per country and not per org, Russia is the prospect factory number one.

You know ACA isn't 'regional'? The I've held events in over 10 countries including Australia, Canada, France, China and the US? And many other countries . . .

DWCS is more regional than ACA

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Some guy had claimed that ACA fighters have the highest percentage wins into the UFC. Is that true, who knows.

ACA is the number one org in russia, and in asia in term of roster depth.

Talents can come from everywhere, and those metrics would change everywhere, some small orgs went bankrupt or disappeared, hard to make metrics, harder even to update them.

Per country and not per org, Russia is the prospect factory number one.

ACA isn't really a regional promotion. Behind UFC as the obvious number one you've got PFL, ONE, RIZIN, KSW and ACA as other major promotions with Oktagon making decent progress towards getting there too.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

In response to the original post do you mean numbers or how successful they've been? Numbers wise is easily LFA but I'd have to look into it a bit more in terms of how successful the fighters have been

 

[jeff7b9]

CTE

 

[DougieJones]

In response to the original post do you mean numbers or how successful they've been? Numbers wise is easily LFA but I'd have to look into it a bit more in terms of how successful the fighters have been

How successful, like who has had the most ranked fighters and champs

 

[Hellowhosthat]

How successful, like who has had the most ranked fighters and champs

In terms of number of ranked fighters I would imagine it's LFA again with the likes of Fluffy, Buckley, Royval, Allen, Waldo, Neal, Prates, Bonfim, Johnson, Barber, Loopy, Sandhagen, Moreno etc etc having been there.

In terms of best success per athlete I would guess at BRAVE which has far less guys come through than LFA but Topuria, Khamzat, Aliskerov, Mokaev, BSD all fought there.

On the WMMA side it's probably Invicta for both aspects.

 

[DougieJones]

In terms of number of ranked fighters I would imagine it's LFA again with the likes of Fluffy, Buckley, Royval, Allen, Waldo, Neal, Prates, Bonfim, Johnson, Barber, Loopy, Sandhagen, Moreno etc etc having been there.

In terms of best success per athlete I would guess at BRAVE which has far less guys come through than LFA but Topuria, Khamzat, Aliskerov, Mokaev, BSD all fought there.

On the WMMA side it's probably Invicta for both aspects.

 

[Mob69]

Strikeforce. A Californian promotion.

 

[Tokoloko]

Seems like people forget what names OKTAGON "provided" into UFC. Some of them signing by UFC were kinda premature, Bryczek for example...

Other than that these guys fought in OKTAGON-

Javid and Farid Basharat - (3-1-2) and (3-0)

Islam Dulatov (1-0)

Felipe Lima (2-1)

Tereza Bledá (1-1)

Martin Buday (7-1)

Makhmud Muradov (4-1-2)

Ludoviť Klein (7-1-2)

David Dvorak (3-3)

Then previously mentioned "premature signing"

Niklas Stolze (0-3)

Robert Bryczek (0-1) and i dont see his chances high against Tavares

Recent signings -

Keita - champ potential

Shemrock - I expect him to end in that "premature signing" category, but UFC could probably save him with favourable matchmaking, we will see...

UFC trying to sign (reportedly)-

Kerim Engizek (current OKTAGON mw champ)

Ronald Paradaiser (former OKTAGON LW champ - lost belt to Keita)

Lucia Szabova (unbeaten and current OKTAGON BW champ)

Dominik Humburger (Czech fighter which OKTAGON "snatched" from KSW and currently have 2 wins in OKTAGON 1mil pyramid)

Vlastislav Čepo (Entertaining fighter and finisher, but ground is his kryptonite, currently left million pyramid due to injury)

Niko Samsonidse (BJJ blackbelt and former OKTAGON title contender - lost to reigning champion Losene Keita by KO...)

Matěj Peňáz (former #4 ranked mw of Glory Kickboxing, 10-0 in OKTAGON, 1 loss from DWCS, currently left million pyramid due to injury)


Small samle of some fighters i mentioned UFC is interested in -

Humburger (he was big underdog in this fight) -




Engizek -



Penaz vs Zawada -



Čepo -



Szabova - (submissions, knockouts, this girl is a finisher...only what slow her career down was pregnancy otherwise she would be definitely already in UFC...)



So Oktagon definitely should have spot here, and it should be probably somewhere high on that list.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Seems like people forget what names OKTAGON "provided" into UFC. Some of them signing by UFC were kinda premature, Bryczek for example...

Other than that these guys fought in OKTAGON-

Javid and Farid Basharat - (3-1-2) and (3-0)

Islam Dulatov (1-0)

Felipe Lima (2-1)

Tereza Bledá (1-1)

Martin Buday (7-1)

Makhmud Muradov (4-1-2)

Ludoviť Klein (7-1-2)

David Dvorak (3-3)

Then previously mentioned "premature signing"

Niklas Stolze (0-3)

Robert Bryczek (0-1) and i dont see his chances high against Tavares

Recent signings -

Keita - champ potential

Shemrock - I expect him to end in that "premature signing" category, but UFC could probably save him with favourable matchmaking, we will see...

UFC trying to sign (reportedly)-

Kerim Engizek (current OKTAGON mw champ)

Ronald Paradaiser (former OKTAGON LW champ - lost belt to Keita)

Lucia Szabova (unbeaten and current OKTAGON BW champ)

Dominik Humburger (Czech fighter which OKTAGON "snatched" from KSW and currently have 2 wins in OKTAGON 1mil pyramid)

Vlastislav Čepo (Entertaining fighter and finisher, but ground is his kryptonite, currently left million pyramid due to injury)

Niko Samsonidse (BJJ blackbelt and former OKTAGON title contender - lost to reigning champion Losene Keita by KO...)

Matěj Peňáz (former #4 ranked mw of Glory Kickboxing, 10-0 in OKTAGON, 1 loss from DWCS, currently left million pyramid due to injury)


Small samle of some fighters i mentioned UFC is interested in -

Humburger (he was big underdog in this fight) -




Engizek -



Penaz vs Zawada -



Čepo -



Szabova - (submissions, knockouts, this girl is a finisher...only what slow her career down was pregnancy otherwise she would be definitely already in UFC...)



So Oktagon definitely should have spot here, and it should be probably somewhere high on that list.

I've heard Engicek might have some visa issues which is why he hasn't been signed. I'd like to see some of the others signed. Probably not Cepo who I don't think is anywhere near UFC level tbh.

Szabova, Rony and Penaz would be the fighters I'd sign first if it was up to me.

 

[Tokoloko]

I've heard Engicek might have some visa issues which is why he hasn't been signed. I'd like to see some of the others signed. Probably not Cepo who I don't think is anywhere near UFC level tbh.

Szabova, Rony and Penaz would be the fighters I'd sign first if it was up to me.

I agree that Čepo is definitely not top 15 potential fighter, but UFC most likely wants him because of his style which is straight up kill or be killed + he could be good "bump" to test prospects

Penaz and Szabova are probably best to pick from OKTAGON right now. The problem with these two is that they are not "fans" of accepting shortnotice / fighting compromised. Which could be huge issue for UFC which mostly signs only for short notices / DWCS.

Rony is trying to land money fight in OKTAGON after he moved to WW...but we will probably see him in UFC in 1-2 years