Which Klitschko was better?

[CrimsonFan]

I feel like people get them confused. I was always much more impressed with Vatali.

He was in that Lewis fight too. He could have gone down as the GOAT if he won that fight.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Wlad; but I'd take vitali over wlad if they fought
Vitali is a natural fighter, wlad isn't! Wlad has far better boxing but vitali is as tough as they come.

 

[DaveDave]

Wlad was the harder puncher (he punched like a boxer; Vitali punched like a kickboxer his entire career, he was a huge strong arm-puncher, but still an arm-puncher), the better technical boxer & probably a better athlete.

Vitali would've beaten him 10/10 & was by far the better fighter overall, simply 'cos of his chin, attitude & engine, each of which were so far in advance of Wlad's that it negated Wlad's advantages.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Wlad was the harder puncher (he punched like a boxer; Vitali punched like a kickboxer his entire career, he was a huge strong arm-puncher, but still an arm-puncher), the better technical boxer & probably a better athlete.

Vitali would've beaten him 10/10 & was by far the better fighter overall, simply 'cos of his chin, attitude & engine, each of which were so far in advance of Wlad's that it negated Wlad's advantages.

Absolutely agree. Chin and attitude/mentality would be the deciding factor. The fact that they know each other's style so well is only really an advantage to vatali imo

 

[BoxingMMA]

It's one of those situations where Wlad is the stronger, faster, overall better boxer but Vitali is smarter and tougher. Remember Vitali is pretty much undefeated in his mind, his both losses were fights he was winning then something freakish happened.

Well, against Byrd it was freakish, against Lewis he got caught with a punch and opened a cut, he was ready to go but they didn't allow him. He still feels he was cheated and doesn't really feel like a loser. In his mind and in the minds of many he is pretty much an undefeated HW because when shit got tough he just toughed it out and managed to win, while Wladimir seemed to get scared shitless when shit got tough.

 

[ItsTimeToShrekYouUp]

I feel like people get them confused. I was always much more impressed with Vatali.

He was in that Lewis fight too. He could have gone down as the GOAT if he won that fight.

Your throwing that word GOAT around really liberally. Even if Vitali won he'd be far from being the GOAT. Lewis was old. To be GOAT you'd have to have a resume/legacy/h2h to beat Ali Louis Holmes Lewis Foreman etc.

That said head to head vitali beats wlad. Wlad was a better technician and athlete but Vitali had better fight related "intangibles" like his heart and chin and that's what would give him the edge. If you ranked them on an all time hw list Wlad would probably be higher since he argueably accomplished more but vitali wouldn't be far behind. Both atgs for sure.

 

[GoodAssCheese]

I'll take the dominant monster with one or two questionable stoppage defeas vs the guy who got stopped by half the division in the '00's. Wlad overcame his shortcomings well, but he's no Vitali.

 

[GoodAssCheese]

It's one of those situations where Wlad is the stronger, faster, overall better boxer but Vitali is smarter and tougher. Remember Vitali is pretty much undefeated in his mind, his both losses were fights he was winning then something freakish happened.

Well, against Byrd it was freakish, against Lewis he got caught with a punch and opened a cut, he was ready to go but they didn't allow him. He still feels he was cheated and doesn't really feel like a loser. In his mind and in the minds of many he is pretty much an undefeated HW because when shit got tough he just toughed it out and managed to win, while Wladimir seemed to get scared shitless when shit got tough.

YOu can't train heart.

 

[Hagler]

It's one of those situations where Wlad is the stronger, faster, overall better boxer but Vitali is smarter and tougher. Remember Vitali is pretty much undefeated in his mind, his both losses were fights he was winning then something freakish happened.

Well, against Byrd it was freakish, against Lewis he got caught with a punch and opened a cut, he was ready to go but they didn't allow him. He still feels he was cheated and doesn't really feel like a loser. In his mind and in the minds of many he is pretty much an undefeated HW because when shit got tough he just toughed it out and managed to win, while Wladimir seemed to get scared shitless when shit got tough.

I don't really buy Wlad's alleged lack of heart. The guy got hit by hurting bombs every time he was stopped, and he got up from lots of KDs during his career. Hell, he was still standing when the ref stopped him against Joshua. I don't think many HWs would have gotten up twice in this 11th round.

Vitali, on the other side, quit with 3 rounds to go in a championship fight he was winning, hardly risking much from Byrd's punching power. That makes his heart more questionable in my book.

 

[Seano]

I think Vitali was more complete. He had a better chin too.

 

[Sharkhunter]

Older brother chin, younger skill set

 

[PivotPunch]

Wlad is the better boxer but Vitali is the better fighter. I think Prime Vitali beats Wlad and prime Vitali does better against other ATGs than Wlad. Vitali has a better chin, better endurance, he throws a higher variety of punches, has better headmovement and is mentally on a different level.

 

[BoxingMMA]

I don't really buy Wlad's alleged lack of heart. The guy got hit by hurting bombs every time he was stopped, and he got up from lots of KDs during his career. Hell, he was still standing when the ref stopped him against Joshua. I don't think many HWs would have gotten up twice in this 11th round.

Vitali, on the other side, quit with 3 rounds to go in a championship fight he was winning, hardly risking much from Byrd's punching power. That makes his heart more questionable in my book.

I give him a pass for fucking up his rotator cuff, I boxed for a little while and the pain he felt must have been unbearable, I think he more than showed his heart in the Lewis fight when his head was halfway open and he wouldn't stop.

Still, Wlads problem was never heart, it was cardio and being way too defensive later in his career. He really looked scared to go in and trade with fighters who threw big bombs because he knew he had a questionable chin, when Vitali didn't fear getting hear too much.

 

[Sunfish]

Vitali. His only real loss was Lennox. Wlad lost to people legit, vitali lost once to a legend and once to his shoulder.

 

[JayE]

I feel like people get them confused. I was always much more impressed with Vatali.

He was in that Lewis fight too. He could have gone down as the GOAT if he won that fight.

No, he couldn't have.

 

[Sunfish]

No, he couldn't have.

Like seriously?

 

[PivotPunch]

Like seriously?

He would have been far from the overall GOAT and even from the HW GOAT if you "only" add a win over Lewis.

First of all it was the oldest version of Lewis there is and while far from shot that matters. But guys like Frazier, Foreman and Ali have wins over each other aka other prime ATG boxers and have boxed in the strongest HW division there was and beat many other very good fighters. Holyfield fought in a stronger division and beat past prime Tyson but was also past his best hismelf at that point.

Larry Holmes would be in the discussion as well to be ahead of Vitali allthough that would be debatable

Vitali would be similar to Rocky Marciano. While Lewis still ahd more left than Joe Louis it would be comparable both would have a win over one ATG but not in hteir primes and would have dominated a not so strong HW division.

 

[wilddeuces]

Wladimir gets no respect. Look at the AJ fight. Only pride got him up off the canvas. He had more skills and was more astute with distance than Vitali. Vitali was more prone to taking one on his cast-iron chin because he could absorb them He was the more natural scrapper, and no, he didn’t always just arm punch. In spite of how I sounded Vitali was smart too. These two brothers are yin and yang. Bothe, arguably show some of the same qualities, but in different ways. Both have unique advantages too. Classic sibling dynamic.

Holyfield got old in the Lewis fights, by the way. Not Cuz of, but in terms of timing. Same with Roy boy after/during Tarver.

 

[DaveDave]

Vitali was more prone to taking one on his cast-iron chin because he could absorb them He was the more natural scrapper, and no, he didn’t always just arm punch.

Which of his highlight reel stunning one-punch KOs back up your claim, please?

Kindly sit through this & count the actual punches thrown with correct bodyweight & extension, please? I did, & I make it one right hand (that missed):

 

[Old Cat]

Which of his highlight reel stunning one-punch KOs back up your claim, please?

Kindly sit through this & count the actual punches thrown with correct bodyweight & extension, please? I did, & I make it one right hand (that missed):

Wait. Are you saying all those shots were arm punches? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying?