When they say attack from angles instead straight in, specifically what do they mean?

[MMouse]

I'm usually confused to this, as if do they mean take a 45 degree step forward and attack at the same time? set up an angle that gives you the advantage? wait till your opponent engages so that you can circle or evade and counter?

could use some understanding

 

[SOE Jinn]

Here is possibly simple and good way for you to understand angles.

Throw a right hand punch in the air and then hold the position with the right hand extended.

If a person is straight in front of you, then its very difficult for him to strike you back as your right hand punch would be landing on his face.

However, if the other guy counter-attacked at a 45 degree angle on either your left or right side then your straight punch would have missed, but he could hit you in the face or body with a punch. The other guy could also attack your legs or body with a kick.

2 guys standing in front of each other and punching each other in the face requires LESS skill to do.

If 1 guy moves to the side and punches the other guy in the face, he gave himself an advantage. You could not hit him, because he was not straight in front of you. BUT, he could hit you, because he moved slightly to the side of you.

 

[MMouse]

Here is possibly simple and good way for you to understand angles.

Throw a right hand punch in the air and then hold the position with the right hand extended.

If a person is straight in front of you, then its very difficult for him to strike you back as your right hand punch would be landing on his face.

However, if the other guy counter-attacked at a 45 degree angle on either your left or right side then your straight punch would have missed, but he could hit you in the face or body with a punch. The other guy could also attack your legs or body with a kick.

2 guys standing in front of each other and punching each other in the face requires LESS skill to do.

If 1 guy moves to the side and punches the other guy in the face, he gave himself an advantage. You could not hit him, because he was not straight in front of you. BUT, he could hit you, because he moved slightly to the side of you.

aw thanks, can circling be used on kicks? or would you say evade or taking a step back is the way to attack a kicker from an angle?

 

[MisterT]

Punching at angles means NOT just standing face to face with your opponent and attacking straight.

An example of using angles is when a boxer slips his opponent's jab with a slight off step to the right and follows up with a right hook / right uppercut.

One of the best examples of "using angles" that I can remember is the knockdown that happened in the third round of the Pacquiao/Cotto fight:



Start watching at 00:35

Pacquiao initiates an attack by jabing Cotto's head. As Cotto backs up momentarily, Pac uses that space to off step to the right and come back with another combo to Cotto's temple (notice how he wasn't facing Cotto head on when this occurred. Rather, he was at Cotto's left side, at an angle).

 

[djdwolf]

Another great example, is when Liddell dropped Couture with the straight right, he steps and squares him up, Couture was facing45 degrees off Liddell, picture perfect counter.. i believe it was the 3rd fight..

 

[tkdfighter]

I understand why you want to take angles but you have to practice it. I'm trying to get used to it. My coaches told me you never want to fight straight back and fourth. Yes you can use kicks at angles. I think personally a kick at a angle will do more damage, because you can send that kick all the way through your opponent, and theres really no way he can counter it.

 

[Higus]

I had a hard time understanding the concept at first. The example someone gave to me was Crocop vs Wand. It was an amazing display of striking and angling. When you watch it, you will see that Cro cop was constantly coming at angles that Silva wasn't able to counter attack from

 

[chino0503]

punching in angles just means from different directions. straight thru the guard, under it, around it.
usually southpaws have "strange" angles cause it comes from the opposite side.

for example a southpaws 1,2,3 is a different angle as a orthodoxs 1,2,3. even tho its the same combo

 

[aries]

I understand why you want to take angles but you have to practice it. I'm trying to get used to it. My coaches told me you never want to fight straight back and fourth. Yes you can use kicks at angles. I think personally a kick at a angle will do more damage, because you can send that kick all the way through your opponent, and theres really no way he can counter it.

Kicking MT style very often has you stepping offline at 45 degrees before you throw the kick so you are nearly always at angle to your opponent if you use good technique. This is vital for low kicks because you are in counter punching range.

 

[EffeKt]

I had a hard time understanding the concept at first. The example someone gave to me was Crocop vs Wand. It was an amazing display of striking and angling. When you watch it, you will see that Cro cop was constantly coming at angles that Silva wasn't able to counter attack from

seriously wtf happend to cro-cop? He was awesome. I guess your fighters age catches up to you eventually.

 

[KiddMuscle**]

They want you to get the dominant angle of attack. Which means you should be facing their side, this will give you a better chance to attack.
They only have two sides and you only have two stances. Which means there are four ways to end up in the dominant angle of attack.
However there are a million ways to end up their.

Makes it much easier to comprehend if you break it down like this.

 

[dondulah]

MMouse

To answer your question directly, yes, you should step at approximately a 45 degree angle toward your opponent. Your foot should land just a split second before you land the punch. In general, for counters:
*you counter a straight forward attack at an angle strike
*you counter an angle attack with a circle strike
*you counter a circle attack with an angle strike

I hope this helps.

 

[chino0503]

when you throw a 1,2,3 or a pivot, 1,2,3..... its the same combo but from different angle and a different direction from your opponents guard. hope that explains it. thats what punching from different angles mean.

punches coming from different directions.

 

[quikkick]

Manny pacquiao

 

[Snubnoze707]

Kickboxing's angling genius Giorgio Petrosyan:

 

[CharmingCritic]

^^ Petrosyan is the best. He makes it look easy.

 

[DECAPITATION]

funny how every single example in this thread so far has been from fights taking place in an open stance with the southpaw being the one using the angles.

 

[SAAMAG]

Well technically when one person is southpaw each has an equal opportunity to use the same angles. I look at it not like one is southpaw and one is orthodox, but rather that the fighter's have an open or closed position relative to one another.

 

[DECAPITATION]

Well technically when one person is southpaw each has an equal opportunity to use the same angles. I look at it not like one is southpaw and one is orthodox, but rather that the fighter's have an open or closed position relative to one another.

I agree.Would you say that its easier to create good angles in an open position than it is in a closed one? If so then you would think that the southpaw would have the advantage in that he fights in an open stance more than an orthodox whom would usually be in a closed stance

 

[mrpopenfresh]

Laterl movement and circling. That's why boxing trainers saide "Stick and move, stiack and move!"