Steve Morris is a street fighting/bio mechanics guy. He has a pretty big focus on stimulus oriented neurology too. He's big on intensity and power shots. I was wondering what the more experienced strikers on the forums thought of his stuff and the guy. Here are some clips of his. He's strong as fuck and these clips are of him when he's over 60. He's like 70 something now and still trains/coaches regularly.
What is Stand Up Technique's Opinion On Steve Morris? Street/BioMech Guy
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is this a serious question? i only watched a few seconds of the top video and he's leaning forward on tip toes while he does arm punches meaning he has no concept of balance or how to properly punch...
I mean he's definitely unorthodox and isn't a boxer, but he's hitting the bag pretty friggin hard. And are you sure those are arm punches? He drops his whole body into them.
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Im not going to lie, some people are taught to throw a hook like. That there was some hips in there. Never heard of this guy, but he seems more like just a guy who knows a thing or 2 about punching and fighting.
Never heard of Urquidez before, I looked up a few of his fights and that was really cool. Thanks for throwing that out there. They do fight very similarly.
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He does not drop his hole body into them. But anyway, why does it impress you that a man with that build can hit a bag fairly hard? I'd be pretty pathetic if he couldnt'
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There are all-time great boxers who did that. Not the best punchers but they could make it work.
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He ABSOLUTELY knows what he's doing. One of the guys who I train Muay Thai trained with him for a long time, that dude has great timing, great technique and he attributes it to Steve Morris.
He is opinionated and says things that I find laughable, but he knows what he's doing. He's not a wizard, but he's good.
This is him drilling with Vincent Jauncey, who is the father and coach of Glory Fighter Josh Jauncey.
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as i said in my first post, i only watched a short bit of it, what i saw looked like 90% of the power was coming from the arms
it's not particularly difficult to hit a bag friggin hard with or without technique. kimbo slice had no technique before the UFC, but he hit hard.
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i'm guessing he's the one mostly just moving about... at 00:53 he throws 2 punches and was so off balanced he fell forward...later on he looks a lot better than he does in the OP's videos. maybe he's been out of it too long and out of respect for his past/history no one has said anything?
the OP's videos honestly to me look like an old man who is either a straight up fraud (knows he's not what he presents himself as) or was suckered years ago by a straight up fraud an doesn't know better.
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^You are fighting really hard to dislike a guy doing what a whole lot of ISKA guys were doing back in the day:
I could go on and on all day about the stumbling forward, about the overreaching punches, losing balance, etc. etc. And yet all of these men are validated professional fighters. They're not boxing idealistically because they weren't boxers. In these days kickboxing was in its infancy and they were merely borrowing from boxing. Urquidez had the fortune of having one or two Brothers who boxed and was often in a boxing gym with them. But the origin of this kickboxing can be directly attributed to Joe Lewis (under the tutelage of Bruce Lee) wanting to have a "real" karate fight, in a ring, with rounds, full contact. He was sick of point fighting or only body contact. This gave birth to the ISKA. I dont know much about Morris because he is U.K. based and I never looked into that scene, but his movements and personality are reflective of the times. That's why in many of his videos he's referring to many Arts as fake, as they're not tested in live combat.
It's funny to see such skepticism of a guy who says the very thing that many members of this board echo.
I could go on and on all day about the stumbling forward, about the overreaching punches, losing balance, etc. etc. And yet all of these men are validated professional fighters. They're not boxing idealistically because they weren't boxers. In these days kickboxing was in its infancy and they were merely borrowing from boxing. Urquidez had the fortune of having one or two Brothers who boxed and was often in a boxing gym with them. But the origin of this kickboxing can be directly attributed to Joe Lewis (under the tutelage of Bruce Lee) wanting to have a "real" karate fight, in a ring, with rounds, full contact. He was sick of point fighting or only body contact. This gave birth to the ISKA. I dont know much about Morris because he is U.K. based and I never looked into that scene, but his movements and personality are reflective of the times. That's why in many of his videos he's referring to many Arts as fake, as they're not tested in live combat.
It's funny to see such skepticism of a guy who says the very thing that many members of this board echo.
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if they were looking for full contact karate fighting then leaning forward like that should have never happened since karate never teaches that...
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Less than stellar punching technique =/= fraud. He has a proven track record and has worked with fighters that I literally know.
But they're fighting ISKA. So what's your point?
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Lets move on from the talks of him being a qack and focus on the positives. What things does he teach that are applicable and practical?
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Let's see you do it. Are you his disciple trying to hype him up on this forum or what?
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The type of punching mechanics he's advocating seems locked in to brawling or midrange fighters. I mean how does he throw those punches against someone in shoot-fighting type range?
Yes, Zelenoff.
Here are a quick three points I've got from reading his stuff.
Stimulus First Training
Stimulus oriented training. So instead of throwing the strike at the perfect time have a noise like an air horn playing on repeat, try to land the best possible strike when the air horn sounds. So you build the movement quality around the purpose instead of building the purpose around the movement quality.
The "Dogfight"
Once you build an acceptable aerobic base you want to practice high intensity. So instead of spending all your time sparring/training at the pace you want to set for the fight, occasionally practice 15 second-30 second goes where you use the highest possible intensity you can. The idea is to get used to the "dogfight" so you don't get overwhelmed by someone who puts a huge amount of pressure on in a short time.
Violent Intent/Experience Is The Coin Of The Realm
There isn't a difference between our thoughts, emotions, and movements. The brain is a constantly interweaving problem-solving machine. Being genuinely angry or having genuine violent intent when you perform a move increases the power behind the move. If you want to learn violence you have to learn it from violent people. There is a certain energy to a fight that can't be taught and has to be experienced. Experience of a violent encounter will uniquely prepare you for future violent encounters; your brain uses quick and dirty predictions based on past experiences to create split-second solutions to meet the problem. You can't just S&C, hit the pads, and hit the bag. Sometimes you have to get the shit kicked out of you or kick the shit out of someone else. The next best thing is to have someone with a violent background/experience teach you. They can't give you experience but they can prepare you for violent situations with their own experience.
He posts a ton of info on his facebook if you're interested in getting it from the horse's mouth and not from my secondhand interpretation. I've never trained with the guy but I read a lot of theory on the internet and I find his stuff interesting.
https://www.facebook.com/morris.method/
Actually I'm in a good mood so I want to talk about more fighting stuff.
Inter-connectivity/Strike Damage
The more rigid you can make your body on impact, the more force you can impart on the target. The higher your grip strength and the harder you can clench your fist, the harder you can hit and the more force you can express when you're grappling/wrestling. You can greatly increase force production by working very high intensity isometrics. The harder you can make the muscles contract the more interconnected you can make them and the more force you can pass through them. Also you want to bite down hard on your mouthguard to hit things harder, a hard bite increases muscle irradiation.
Half-Beat
You want to be able to interrupt your opponent and hit them in the middle of their shot. A good exercise to practice for this is the exercise American football players do where they run their feet in place as fast as possible before hitting a sprawl. It's the same idea, you want to be able split peoples' shots and hit them in the middle of their technique, or you want to be able to hit a takedown or a sprawl in the middle of your opponent's techniques.
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