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Are people really so naive to believe that this is good for your knees?
as far as I understand, most ACL injuries happen from hard changes in direction and/or pivoting... when it comes to great leg round kicks they often cause the former(above) while great leg round kickers are most likely to attack during the latter(below)
Faber was either loading up on a left hook or just got caught stepping forward... either way the leg round kick is often used as a left hook counter due to the lead legs natural tendency to pivot on the punch
not to mention that shin on shin action is absolutely brutal
he round kick is many magnitudes more powerful than the front kick and the standard side kick. Outside of some spinning shit, it's probably the most powerful strike that there is.
People often chastise the oblique kicks because they are "cheap", difficult to defend and stifle opponents trying to close the distance. However powerful round kicks are pretty difficult to defend in their own right and can be highly punishing to opponents who make the smallest mistakes while defending them. A lazy or slow check and the kick will follow through, if the kick comes too low it will damage the calf, kicking through arm blocks has the potential to break the arm while still damaging the intended target(seen a lot with high kicks) and catching the kick often involves absorbing it's power and can result in broken hands.
While the oblique kicks stifle linear movement, the round kicks stifle lateral movement. This is why Muay Thai has the stereotype of two guys standing in front of each other eating each others best shots, because a mobile fighter who uses side to side movement to create angles to attack can easily be cut off and trapped into a corner by round kicks.
People often belittle Jones(and Gus) by pointing to the fact that Jones' toughest fight was against the opponent who was most similar to him in his lanky frame. However the truth is that it wasn't the length of Gus' arms that allowed him so much success as much as it was the movement of his feet. The former amateur boxer did his credentials proud with Frankie Edgar esque movement, and made it impossible for Jones to establish a rhythm with his "foot jab". Similar to great boxers who bob and weave to avoid the jab.
Meanwhile Jones most devastating victory was against Shogun's traditional Muay Thai style... not his shortest opponent(DC too suffocating had to beat him down in clinch) or Machida(the master of linear movement)
as far as I understand, most ACL injuries happen from hard changes in direction and/or pivoting... when it comes to great leg round kicks they often cause the former(above) while great leg round kickers are most likely to attack during the latter(below)
Faber was either loading up on a left hook or just got caught stepping forward... either way the leg round kick is often used as a left hook counter due to the lead legs natural tendency to pivot on the punch
not to mention that shin on shin action is absolutely brutal
he round kick is many magnitudes more powerful than the front kick and the standard side kick. Outside of some spinning shit, it's probably the most powerful strike that there is.
People often chastise the oblique kicks because they are "cheap", difficult to defend and stifle opponents trying to close the distance. However powerful round kicks are pretty difficult to defend in their own right and can be highly punishing to opponents who make the smallest mistakes while defending them. A lazy or slow check and the kick will follow through, if the kick comes too low it will damage the calf, kicking through arm blocks has the potential to break the arm while still damaging the intended target(seen a lot with high kicks) and catching the kick often involves absorbing it's power and can result in broken hands.
While the oblique kicks stifle linear movement, the round kicks stifle lateral movement. This is why Muay Thai has the stereotype of two guys standing in front of each other eating each others best shots, because a mobile fighter who uses side to side movement to create angles to attack can easily be cut off and trapped into a corner by round kicks.
People often belittle Jones(and Gus) by pointing to the fact that Jones' toughest fight was against the opponent who was most similar to him in his lanky frame. However the truth is that it wasn't the length of Gus' arms that allowed him so much success as much as it was the movement of his feet. The former amateur boxer did his credentials proud with Frankie Edgar esque movement, and made it impossible for Jones to establish a rhythm with his "foot jab". Similar to great boxers who bob and weave to avoid the jab.
Meanwhile Jones most devastating victory was against Shogun's traditional Muay Thai style... not his shortest opponent(DC too suffocating had to beat him down in clinch) or Machida(the master of linear movement)
