Movies Was the boy in '12 Angry Men' guilty or not guilty?

[Takes Two To Tango]

Going by the way the movie presented itself, I can't see anything else but have my mind made up for reasonable doubt by the end of the movie.

Just a few things I wanted to point out, from my own observation.

One thing I noticed about the film is that it's not true that people never sleep with their glasses on. This is false, I've personally seen people fall asleep while they have their glasses on and wake up when their on.

And the indentation from both side of her nose can also be done by sunglasses. So it doesn't necessarily mean that the girl had bad eye sight.

That just a few I can remember off the top of my head that I thought was worth questioning.

But overall fantastic film. One of the best. 10/10

 

[Ares Black]

Excellent film. Definitely reasonable doubt.

 

[ripsta619]

Reasonable doubt. Biggest issue to me was the height discrepancy between the father and son and the angle of the knife wound. Not too mention he would have used an underhanded technique vs the overhand. One of my favorites of all time. Enjoyed the remake with Jack Lemon as well.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Hey @ironmansnap why do you think he's guilty? Just curious.

 

[Simple Southerner]

Hey @ironmansnap why do you think he's guilty? Just curious.

Yes, because although each piece of evidence is problematic by itself (as Juror 8 showed), when you add it all together there are only two possible conclusions:

1. The defendant is the unluckiest man in the world.
2. He actually did it.

Also, Juror 8 broke the law when he did his own investigation and bought the identical switchblade; the foreman should have informed the judge, who would have either called in an alternate or declared a mistrial.


I might have to rewatch it's been years but that's how I remember it

 

[Jack Reacheround]

He’s guilty, motherfucker. Now let me go to the ball game.

 

[Substance Abuse]

This is an exceptional film. The acting is amazing.

 

[Rhood]

Haven't seen this film since I was a freshman in High school. When the English teacher made everyone watch it in class.
Would never pay $4.99 to rent it at Blockbuster or waste a portion of my HD to download it and watch for free. no offense guys

The only way to watch it is to have an #accidental_view

Add the poll option:
I don't remember

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Yes, because although each piece of evidence is problematic by itself (as Juror 8 showed), when you add it all together there are only two possible conclusions:

1. The defendant is the unluckiest man in the world.
2. He actually did it.

Also, Juror 8 broke the law when he did his own investigation and bought the identical switchblade; the foreman should have informed the judge, who would have either called in an alternate or declared a mistrial.


I might have to rewatch it's been years but that's how I remember it

Those are valid arguments. Thanks for responding.

 

[ufcfan4]

Reasonable doubt. Biggest issue to me was the height discrepancy between the father and son and the angle of the knife wound. Not too mention he would have used an underhanded technique vs the overhand. One of my favorites of all time. Enjoyed the remake with Jack Lemon as well.

I love how the others get nervous and express that vociferously when Lee J. Cobb first gears up to mimic how he would stab a taller man with Fonda standing in for the father.

What a great cast and what a great film. Fonda, Cobb, Warden, Begley, Marshall, firing on all cylinders as was the rest of the cast.

 

[Holic]

No, you do not stab downward with a switchblade.

Spoiler

You lock hands and dance like in the Michael Jackson Beat It video.

 

[JbModest]

Great flick. There was reasonable doubt.

 

[blaseblah]

Yes, because although each piece of evidence is problematic by itself (as Juror 8 showed), when you add it all together there are only two possible conclusions:

1. The defendant is the unluckiest man in the world.
2. He actually did it.

Also, Juror 8 broke the law when he did his own investigation and bought the identical switchblade; the foreman should have informed the judge, who would have either called in an alternate or declared a mistrial.


I might have to rewatch it's been years but that's how I remember it

But also competent lawyers would have identified that the switchblade was common. In fact all the arguments made during the movie should have been made during the trial.

 

[aus101]

Whenever I fall asleep with my glasses on they fall off by the time I awake.

 

[StewDogg11]

Off topic but I’m amazed they put together such a killer cast for a made for TV movie regarding the 1997 version. Not to mention John finally got to see Chuck again…and he was alive oddly enough. (Please tell me someone else gets this)

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Whenever I fall asleep with my glasses on they fall off by the time I awake.

That's true most of the time. But I've seen people with them on even till they wake up.

 

[MusterX]

What really stands out about 12 Angry Men is that because of the time period, and because it takes place pretty much all in one room, it must be built upon superior dialogue. 12 Angry Men is an example of how sometimes old films have a grasp of dialogue that modern films struggle to replicate. It could be that the writers of those films were just better but it could also be that modern film makers have use of practical effects and CGI and other tools they focus on and the dialogue in some cases becomes almost secondary. In 12 Angry Men the dialogue is the star of the show.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

What really stands out about 12 Angry Men is that because of the time period, and because it takes place pretty much all in one room, it must be built upon superior dialogue. 12 Angry Men is an example of how sometimes old films have a grasp of dialogue that modern films struggle to replicate. It could be that the writers of those films were just better but it could also be that modern film makers have use of practical effects and CGI and other tools they focus on and the dialogue in some cases becomes almost secondary. In 12 Angry Men the dialogue is the star of the show.

Well said my friend, well said.