Was Prime Overeem the second most unbeatable HW of all time (after Prime Fedor)?

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We all know that Prime Fedor (during his win streak) was the most unbeatable Heavyweight of all time. Therefore, would Prime Overeem (during his win streak after he beat Lesnar) be considered the second most unbeatable Heavyweight of all time?

(Please don't be cringey and mention Jones. He's only had one Heavyweight fight. Just don't. Thanks.)
 
No. Ubereem would've likely lost to Werdum in Stikeforce had Werdum not kept pulling guard, or if it was a 5 round fight instead of 3 considering Ubereem was completely gassed.
I didn’t listen to my corner. Rafael [Cordeiro, Kings MMA leader] was telling me to keep striking, not to try to pull guard, but I didn’t do that. I wasn’t listening to him, wasn’t focusing on the fight the way that I should’ve been. It wasn’t a good fight for me or Overeem.”
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“I’m sad because I know I could have won that fight,” Werdum lamented. “I showed a lot of improvement in my striking game, but I wanted to do some jiu-jitsu with him also. Everyone calls for me to strike, and I go. When I call people to my guard, they never go. I still want to see the K-1 champ, the guy who knocks everyone out in the first round. He didn’t show much, didn’t hit me hard enough to knock me down. I landed more punches and my mistake was to try so many times to pull him to my guard. I believe I lost to him, and not that he defeated me.”
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“Pezao will beat him,” asserted Werdum. “I thought Overeem was going to show more, hit harder, but he didn’t. I suffered a lot because he’s much stronger than me, but Silva is naturally stronger. If [Silva] has a good camp and gets prepared well, he’ll take this fight for sure.”
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Reem was quite beatable in MMA. He looked like he almost had a heart attack when he fought a buttscooting injured Werdum.
 
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No. He beat a bunch of cans while juiced to the gills. His chin was always made of glass. That alone made him beatable.
 
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Well he was undefeated as Ubereem with 9 finishes in 9 fights. It was a glorious 2-3 year period. So it's not an absurd question the juice definitely gave him more confidence and may have helped his chin.

Also bonus points for looking like he was genetically engineered to fuck your girlfriend. Dime piece.

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He got flatlined by Sergei while he was uber. You can argue that he wasn't fully uber yet though. He got donkey punched.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
ubereem would have put prime fedor in a coma. he’s the HW equivalent of trt vitor
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The Fedor that he may have fought in Strikeforce, maybe.
Everything up until Affliction Fedor? Snowball's chance in hell.
The Arlovski fight was the first time I thought Fedor slowed down (before the KO obviously).
 
Prime Ubereem was Pre-Lesnar. It was Ubereem's last fight.
Sergei Kharitonov fight was at the beginning of Ubereem--right when he first started eating horse meat--so it could be argued either way.
Badr Hari did not KO him, it was TKO do to the 2 knockdown rule.
 
Liverkick-king56 said:
Well as an Overeem fan I will say he has something in common that has him in Jones' caliber
They're both horrible cheaters who should not be in the discussion of GOATs.

With that in mind I'd still take a prime Fedor to win
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prime fedor the only non steroid abuser fighting in a steroid den
hes truly a hero kinda like the liver king and mike ohearn
the real all natural
 
He lost 8 times all by finish in the UFC alone. At LHW couldn't even beat Chuck Liddell back in the day.

In a decade of being a top 5 HW he never got a title shot.

What about this reads domination to you?
 
Viper2 said:
We all know that Prime Fedor (during his win streak) was the most unbeatable Heavyweight of all time. Therefore, would Prime Overeem (during his win streak after he beat Lesnar) be considered the second most unbeatable Heavyweight of all time?

(Please don't be cringey and mention Jones. He's only had one Heavyweight fight. Just don't. Thanks.)
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Ubereem vs Francis would decide the GOAT.
 
orca said:
prime fedor the only non steroid abuser fighting in a steroid den
hes truly a hero kinda like the liver king and mike ohearn
the real all natural
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Well Overeem was getting popped everywhere he fought.
Getting popped in Glory is insane. We can't just pass that as whatever situation. In a era where steroids were easy to do the guy was still failing tests. Overeem and Jones are very obviously cheating with no real proof to say otherwise.

Also Fedor's prime arguably ended in 2009... Roided fighters aren't on the physical decline in their mid 30's.

All of that aside you didn't say why Overeem hasn't been a cheater.. You just tried to blame somebody else for also cheating? I say this as a Overeem fan, dudes career is overshadowed by the horsemeat
 
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