Economy UPS union drivers could receive 170,000 a year with benefits included under new contract

[PEB]

It's funny how It's tech workers they point to not Home Depot, FedEx, oil company workers? Yes it sounds amazing but these drivers work 60 hour weeks if not more. These numbers maybe effected by the range. Not everyone will be making 170,000 a year in pay an benefits.


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The average UPS driver could get six-figure pay under a new contract, and tech workers have mixed feelings about it.

During an earnings call on Tuesday, UPS CEO Carol Tomé said that by the end of its five-year contract with the Teamsters union, the average full-time UPS driver would make about $170,000 in annual pay and benefits, such as healthcare and pension benefits. The comments were made after UPS came to a tentative agreement to head off a potential strike in July with Teamsters, the union that represents about 340,000 UPS delivery drivers and package handlers. The agreement has yet to be officially approved by union members, but the results of a vote on the issue are set to be announced later this month.

Some tech workers on social media pointed out the salary boost could make the drivers' salaries more competitive with white-collar employees — and big tech workers responded with a mix of ire and appreciation for the union.

"This is disappointing, how is possible that a driver makes much more than average Engineer in R&D?" a worker at the autonomous-trucking company TuSimple wrote on Blind, an anonymous job-posting site that verifies users' employment using company emails. "To get a base salary of $170k you know you need to work hard as an Engineer, this sucks.""

https://www.businessinsider.com/tec...k-ups-driver-deal-anger-admiration-2023-8?amp

 

[nostradumbass]

Why is it funny?

People who get promoted to full time driver have usually worked at the company for 5+ years in lower aid positions. You usually start with loading boxes into the trucks, then move up the belt to sorting, then maybe a manager, then a seasonal driver, then full time driver. Having said that, it does seem overpaid since they also get like 2 months/year paid time off, and that pay increase gets passed on to customers

 

[mixmastermo]

Why is it funny?

People who get promoted to full time driver have usually worked at the company for 5+ years in lower aid positions. You usually start with loading boxes into the trucks, then move up the belt to sorting, then maybe a manager, then a seasonal driver, then full time driver. Having said that, it does seem overpaid since they also get like 2 months/year paid time off, and that pay increase gets passed on to customers

It's funny because most doctors and other professionals who went through a lot of schooling don't get paid that much.
Pretty sure every other company in the USA does not give people with little to no higher education 6 figure salaries after working lower level jobs for 5 years.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Good for them.

 

[nostradumbass]

It's funny because most doctors and other professionals who went through a lot of schooling don't get paid that much.
Pretty sure every other company in the USA does not give people with little to no higher education 6 figure salaries after working lower level jobs for 5 years.

Of course most doctors do make significantly more than that, but that's not what TS claimed was "funny". He thought it was funny that the article pointed to tech workers complaining because he thinks they should have focused on conservatives complaining instead the very left wing tech industry, but of course oil rig operators do make more than that, most do do make quite a bit more than both, and so do tech workers, but the tech workers apparently think UPS drivers shouldn't even make a fraction of what they do.

 

[mixmastermo]

Of course most doctors do make significantly more than that, but that's not what TS claimed was "funny". He thought it was funny that the article pointed to tech workers complaining because he thinks they should have focused on conservatives complaining instead the very left wing tech industry, but of course oil rig operators do make more than that, most do do make quite a bit more than both, and so do tech workers, but the tech workers apparently think UPS drivers shouldn't even make a fraction of what they do.

I did mean doctors when starting out. Noted on your other points. I was laying down and looking at this on a tablet, may have not read it fully.

I just know what I immediately thought when I heard about the pay increase yesterday, and I still stand by my point that $170k is a lot for what essentially amounts to an unskilled job.

Here is some info on ER doctor salaries...

https://www.zippia.com/emergency-room-physician-jobs/salary/

• The average salary for an emergency room physician is $160,275 in the US.
• The average emergency room physician salary ranges between $74,000 and $342,000 in the US.
• Emergency room physicians' hourly rates in the US typically range between $35 and $164 an hour.
• Emergency room physicians earn the highest salaries in Connecticut (113,307), Delaware (112,419), and California (111,142).

 

[weed]

growing up, I used to stop by my mom's office & she used to tell me to stay in the bathroom to prevent the UPS guy from using it. my mom & her boss used to fight with him because he like had some diarrhetic death gut problem or some shit. then one day I understood. my mom's face & her boss'. they looked like they were on the brink of crying. the UPS guy snuck in for a squirt & man, it was the type of stank where you cannot no matter what open your mouth when you're in it. it smelled like shit, but like it was flame broiled or something. that guy brought honor to the brown uniform.

 

[AZ103]

I did mean doctors when starting out. Noted on your other points. I was laying down and looking at this on a tablet, may have not read it fully.

I just know what I immediately thought when I heard about the pay increase yesterday, and I still stand by my point that $170k is a lot for what essentially amounts to an unskilled job.

Here is some info on ER doctor salaries...

https://www.zippia.com/emergency-room-physician-jobs/salary/

• The average salary for an emergency room physician is $160,275 in the US.
• The average emergency room physician salary ranges between $74,000 and $342,000 in the US.
• Emergency room physicians' hourly rates in the US typically range between $35 and $164 an hour.
• Emergency room physicians earn the highest salaries in Connecticut (113,307), Delaware (112,419), and California (111,142).

It's funny people consider sitting on their ass sending emails and not doing shit a skill worth sometimes millions. But men breaking their back shouldn't make good money. Busting your ass every day is a skill.


Edit: I know at least one person who has a fake office job. They were hired 9 months ago and essentially given a ghost project and when they ask for instructions are ignored. Still they pay him and even gave him a raise?! I'm in the wrong industry. Him and his colleagues goof off all day every day and make nearly 100k a year.

 

[mixmastermo]

It's funny people consider sitting on their ass sending emails and not doing shit a skill worth sometimes millions. But men breaking their back shouldn't make good money. Busting your ass every day is a skill.


Edit: I know at least one person who has a fake office job. They were hired 9 months ago and essentially given a ghost project and when they ask for instructions are ignored. Still they pay him and even gave him a raise?! I'm in the wrong industry. Him and his colleagues goof off all day every day and make nearly 100k a year.

Not disputing a lot of those kinds of office jobs exist, but let's not pretend they are all like that.

People at the higher levels of companies have to develop long term strategies, and that involves hedging and developing alternate scenarios for when shit hits the fan. These strategies inform how businesses are budgeted and what kind of resources they are allowed to keep on hand. These decisions inform how said company will operate and will have an impact on people's lives. A lot of these people still aren't making $170k

That level of responsibility and stress is in another universe compared to driving a company provided truck with pre sorted packages on a predetermined route to drop off the packages your electronic device tells you to do.

 

[AWilder]

good for them. This is what a healthy middle-class looks like.

 

[AZ103]

Not disputing a lot of those kinds of office jobs exist, but let's not pretend they are all like that.

People at the higher levels of companies have to develop long term strategies, and that involves hedging and developing alternate scenarios for when shit hits the fan. These strategies inform how businesses are budgeted and what kind of resources they are allowed to keep on hand. These decisions inform how said company will operate and will have an impact on people's lives. A lot of these people still aren't making $170k

That level of responsibility and stress is in another universe compared to driving a company provided truck with pre sorted packages on a predetermined route to drop off the packages your electronic device tells you to do.

Whatever fancy pants. I'm sure your deliberating over coffee is so so much more worth than the work of men that make all your business possible. Have all your meetings, make all your plans and what happens when the working men don't show up? You've dressed like a dandy and done nothing that's what.

 

[PEB]

Why is it funny?

People who get promoted to full time driver have usually worked at the company for 5+ years in lower aid positions. You usually start with loading boxes into the trucks, then move up the belt to sorting, then maybe a manager, then a seasonal driver, then full time driver. Having said that, it does seem overpaid since they also get like 2 months/year paid time off, and that pay increase gets passed on to customers

It's funny It's always the right who says tech workers are complaining. They never say refinery workers or big businesses that don't provide health insurance but donate big money to right wing politicians. They almost never point to these businesses.

Oh FedEx going to be sh#ting themselves lol. Amazon strike in 3 2 1. Lol

 

[AWilder]

"This is disappointing, how is possible that a driver makes much more than average Engineer in R&D?" a worker at the autonomous-trucking company TuSimple wrote on Blind, an anonymous job-posting site that verifies users' employment using company emails. "To get a base salary of $170k you know you need to work hard as an Engineer, this sucks.""

It's not the UPS driver that causes others to get underpaid. I really hate how easily people focus on the wrong people when it comes to compensation packages.

 

[UFCUCF]

good for them. This is what a healthy middle-class looks like.

Correct. Good for the workers, good for the middle class.

Think it’s too much? Join a union.

 

[MTT]

The 170,000 figure would be at or near max OT and includes a hefty benefits package. Time off + pension + very good health insurance. 110-120k at the top rate.

Vacation time is based on seniority and area. Generally 10 years = 3-4 weeks and every 5 years +1.

The easy $ is bidding a CDL position.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Tech worker here ( I guess that matters ). Good for them, they work hard.

 

[HereticBD]

Get that money before the robots take your job.

 

[RemyR]

Good.

I'll never understand why people shit on others for getting wage increases. Maybe focus on increasing in your own field rather than pull other workers down.

 

[gspieler]

Good.

I'll never understand why people shit on others for getting wage increases. Maybe focus on increasing in your own field rather than pull other workers down.

Yeah, it seems some support the free market, selectively. Like it's great when it's used to justify paying workers poverty wages. But when workers negotiate better pay for themselves, it's somehow absurd.

 

[ajccoming]

It's funny because most doctors and other professionals who went through a lot of schooling don't get paid that much.
Pretty sure every other company in the USA does not give people with little to no higher education 6 figure salaries after working lower level jobs for 5 years.

my wife is getting her doctorate in occupational therapy and won’t come close to their starting pay after she graduates…