"The Rules Favor Wrestlers/Grapplers" Why?

[youngsteinel]

I see this said a lot on Sherdog, what are the reasons that people believe this? The UFC stomps/soccer kicks/knees to downed opponents rule is one.

The way I see it, the rules favor strikers. The fact that there are rounds favor strikers. Stand ups in the middle of the fight favors strikers. Wearing gloves to prevent hand injury favor strikers.

 

[yookfarb]

it's relative to Pride

 

[youngsteinel]

it's relative to Pride

I can see that, with the cage and lack of knees/kicks to downed opponents.

 

[KB Warrior]

Some people are going to say the scoring favors grapplers that take people down and lay on them.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

The knees/kicks to a grounded opponent does favor wrestlers, because they basically have free reign to shoot without fear of consequences. That's really it, though.

 

[thechoice2]

Knees to downed opponents favor strikers more than it does wrestlers/grapplers. Who do you think would be in position to be kneed on the ground more often, the striker or the grappler? No 12-to-6 elbows also favor strikers. Not hitting the back of the head, attacks to the spine also favor strikers.

 

[youngsteinel]

Some people are going to say the scoring favors grapplers that take people down and lay on them.

That's judging criteria, not rules.

 

[TobikanJudan94]

A wrestler who knows little striking will almost always win vs a striker who knows little wrestling.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

Knees to downed opponents favor strikers more than it does wrestlers/grapplers. Who do you think would be in position to be kneed on the ground more often, the striker or the grappler? No 12-to-6 elbows also favor strikers. Not hitting the back of the head, attacks to the spine also favor strikers.

Vovchanchyn/Kerr 1 says you're wrong.

 

[GENERAL AZUL]

The rules favor strikers. I think that knees to a grounded opponent also favor wrestlers/grapplers not strikers.

 

[youngsteinel]

A wrestler who knows little striking will almost always win vs a striker who knows little wrestling.

That doesn't prove the rules favor grapplers, it proves which is more effective IMO.

 

[NativeAmericana]

That's judging criteria, not rules.

Why even make the thread then? Scoring favors wrestlers.

The rules favor strikers. If fighters are on the ground, with no action they get stood up. If fighters are standing with no action, they don't get put on the ground.

 

[yookfarb]

I can see that, with the cage and lack of knees/kicks to downed opponents.

yeah not to mention no elbows, yellow cards, and the ring is the natural environment for a striker

 

[TobikanJudan94]

That doesn't prove the rules favor grapplers, it proves which is more effective IMO.

It's more effective....under the rules of MMA.

 

[ninja boot]

because fox would tell the ufc to take a hike if someone got stomped and kneed into a lifeless corpse on live tv

 

[youngsteinel]

Why even make the thread then? Scoring favors wrestlers.

The rules favor strikers. If fighters are on the ground, with no action they get stood up. If fighters are standing with no action, they don't get put on the ground.

I see it constantly reiterated on Sherdog that the rules favor wrestlers/grapplers, that's why I made the thread

 

[OldBoy91]

I think the judging heavily favours wrestlers, not the rules.

Look at McGregor vs Mendes. Chad got tagged, hurt, winded and beat up, but he lands a takedown and lays on top of a guy for a minute and everyone, including fans, think it's a no brainer to give him the round. Then they'll go in another thread and declare they score fights based on the amount of damage done, it's absurd.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

yeah not to mention no elbows, yellow cards, and the ring is the natural environment for a striker

Yup especially with no corners in the cage.

 

[thechoice2]

Vovchanchyn/Kerr 1 says you're wrong.

Coleman/Vovhanchyn says I'm right.

 

[youngsteinel]

Coleman/Vovhanchyn says I'm right.

We could go back and forth on that one. I would say it favors strikers a bit more, but would still help wrestlers.