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I’m sure al-Qaeda will be lenient with the star worshippers that backed the old regime.
International Syria Discussions, v2: Newly-appointed Syrian Foreign Minister Warns Iran From "Spreading Chaos" In Syria.
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It's a given that some infighting will occur, but these possible invasions seem like a stretch. They'll have their hands full trying to govern the country. This guy might have a sketchy history but from what I've read, he has done a better job governing his territories than Al-Assad did. I find it more likely that a government similar to the Taleban will be propped up, adhering to fundamentalist principles, but also bringing about a degree of stability.
There's as much chance of that happening as there is of me nailing Sidney Sweeney. On the same day I win the Lottery Jackpot.
One can always hope.
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- Assad got smackdowed of power!
The Islamist rebels also dealt a major blow to the influence of Russia and Iran in Syria in the heart of the region, allies who propped up Assad during critical periods in the conflict.
The rebels said they had entered the capital with no sign of army deployments. Thousands of people in cars and on foot congregated at a main square waving and chanting "Freedom" from a half century of Assad family rule, witnesses said.
People were seen walking inside the Al-Rawda Presidential Palace, with some leaving carrying furniture from inside. The rebels said prisoners had been freed from a large jail on the outskirts of Damascus where the Syrian government detained thousands.
"We celebrate with the Syrian people the news of freeing our prisoners and releasing their chains," the rebels said.
Iran's embassy was also stormed by Syrian rebels, Iran's English-language Press TV reported.
Hezbollah, which provided crucial support to Assad for years, withdrew all of its forces from Syria on Saturday as rebel factions approached the capital Damascus, two Lebanese security sources told Reuters on Sunday.
One of the sources said that the supervising forces that Hezbollah had deployed to Syria overnight between Thursday and Friday had been sent to oversee the pullback.
Syria's army command notified officers on Sunday that Assad's rule had ended, a Syrian officer who was informed of the move told Reuters.
But the military later said it was continuing operations against "terrorist groups" in the key cities of Hama and Homs and in the Deraa countryside.
Assad, who has not spoken in public since the sudden rebel advance a week ago, flew out of Damascus for an unknown destination earlier on Sunday, two senior army officers told Reuters, as rebels said they had entered the capital with no sign of army deployments.
His whereabouts now - and those of his wife Asma and their two children - remain unknown. The Russian Foreign Ministry said Assad had left office and departed the country after giving orders there be a peaceful handover of power.
The Syrian rebel coalition said it is continuing work to complete the transfer of power in Syria to a transitional governing body with full executive powers.
"The great Syrian revolution has moved from the stage of struggle to overthrow the Assad regime to the struggle to build a Syria together that befits the sacrifices of its people," it added in a statement.
As Syrians expressed joy, Prime Minister Mohammad Ghazi al-Jalali called for free elections.
But that would require a smooth transition in a country with complex competing interests, from Islamists to groups with links to the United States, Russia and Turkey.
Jalali also said he had been in contact with rebel commander Abu Mohammed al-Golani to discuss managing the transitional period, marking a notable development in efforts to shape Syria's political future.
The collapse of Assad's rule followed a shift in the balance of power in the Middle East after many leaders of Lebanon's Iranian-backed Hezbollah group, a lynchpin of Assad's battlefield force, were killed by Israel over the past two months.
The road ahead is highly complex with a mosaic of groups pursuing conflicting agendas.
Turkey-backed Syrian forces have taken control of some 80% of northern Syria's Manbij area and are close to victory against Kurdish forces there, a Turkish security source said.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov held talks with Geir Pedersen, the U.N. envoy for Syria, in Doha on Saturday when they discussed potential measures to stabilise the situation in Syria, the Interfax news agency reported on Sunday.
Syrians will have to cope with a full-scale civil war alone, Konstantin Kosachyov, deputy chairman of Russia's upper house of parliament said, while suggesting that Moscow was ready to support the Syrian people in certain circumstances.
Russia, a staunch Assad ally, intervened decisively in 2015 to help Assad during Syria's civil war. But with its military resources mostly tied down in Ukraine, Moscow's ability to influence the situation on the ground was far more limited this time round - despite maintaining two military facilities in Syria.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...captured-homs-set-sights-damascus-2024-12-07/
Syrian rebels topple President Assad, Russia says he left the country
By Suleiman Al-Khalidi and Timour Azhari- LATEST DEVELOPMENTS:
- Russian foreign minister says Assad left the country
- Israeli strikes hit Damascus and south, regional security sources say
The Islamist rebels also dealt a major blow to the influence of Russia and Iran in Syria in the heart of the region, allies who propped up Assad during critical periods in the conflict.
The rebels said they had entered the capital with no sign of army deployments. Thousands of people in cars and on foot congregated at a main square waving and chanting "Freedom" from a half century of Assad family rule, witnesses said.
People were seen walking inside the Al-Rawda Presidential Palace, with some leaving carrying furniture from inside. The rebels said prisoners had been freed from a large jail on the outskirts of Damascus where the Syrian government detained thousands.
"We celebrate with the Syrian people the news of freeing our prisoners and releasing their chains," the rebels said.
Iran's embassy was also stormed by Syrian rebels, Iran's English-language Press TV reported.
Hezbollah, which provided crucial support to Assad for years, withdrew all of its forces from Syria on Saturday as rebel factions approached the capital Damascus, two Lebanese security sources told Reuters on Sunday.
One of the sources said that the supervising forces that Hezbollah had deployed to Syria overnight between Thursday and Friday had been sent to oversee the pullback.
Syria's army command notified officers on Sunday that Assad's rule had ended, a Syrian officer who was informed of the move told Reuters.
But the military later said it was continuing operations against "terrorist groups" in the key cities of Hama and Homs and in the Deraa countryside.
Assad, who has not spoken in public since the sudden rebel advance a week ago, flew out of Damascus for an unknown destination earlier on Sunday, two senior army officers told Reuters, as rebels said they had entered the capital with no sign of army deployments.
His whereabouts now - and those of his wife Asma and their two children - remain unknown. The Russian Foreign Ministry said Assad had left office and departed the country after giving orders there be a peaceful handover of power.
The Syrian rebel coalition said it is continuing work to complete the transfer of power in Syria to a transitional governing body with full executive powers.
"The great Syrian revolution has moved from the stage of struggle to overthrow the Assad regime to the struggle to build a Syria together that befits the sacrifices of its people," it added in a statement.
As Syrians expressed joy, Prime Minister Mohammad Ghazi al-Jalali called for free elections.
But that would require a smooth transition in a country with complex competing interests, from Islamists to groups with links to the United States, Russia and Turkey.
Jalali also said he had been in contact with rebel commander Abu Mohammed al-Golani to discuss managing the transitional period, marking a notable development in efforts to shape Syria's political future.
The collapse of Assad's rule followed a shift in the balance of power in the Middle East after many leaders of Lebanon's Iranian-backed Hezbollah group, a lynchpin of Assad's battlefield force, were killed by Israel over the past two months.
The road ahead is highly complex with a mosaic of groups pursuing conflicting agendas.
Turkey-backed Syrian forces have taken control of some 80% of northern Syria's Manbij area and are close to victory against Kurdish forces there, a Turkish security source said.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov held talks with Geir Pedersen, the U.N. envoy for Syria, in Doha on Saturday when they discussed potential measures to stabilise the situation in Syria, the Interfax news agency reported on Sunday.
Syrians will have to cope with a full-scale civil war alone, Konstantin Kosachyov, deputy chairman of Russia's upper house of parliament said, while suggesting that Moscow was ready to support the Syrian people in certain circumstances.
Russia, a staunch Assad ally, intervened decisively in 2015 to help Assad during Syria's civil war. But with its military resources mostly tied down in Ukraine, Moscow's ability to influence the situation on the ground was far more limited this time round - despite maintaining two military facilities in Syria.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...captured-homs-set-sights-damascus-2024-12-07/
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I used to work with refugees, among them many people from Syria who really hated Assad, I imagine they are happy right now and don't begrudge them their days of joy. However, the real work starts tomorrow and there are some big questions up in the air: will Al Jalili's calls for a free election be heeded by the winning opposition groups or will they try to establish their own rule by force of arms?
The best hope for Syria, I think, is a federal future in which minorities and regions decide their own affairs locally and co-exist in peace. However, that will be difficult to achieve as Iran and Turkey are likely to continue meddeling in their own interest and fan the deep divisions already existent in the country. The worst case scenario is a total collapse of the state, genocide and a civil war that never ends. I do think Syria's location and importance will prevent that from happening, however.
To end on a positive note: this is a major blow for the regimes in both Iran and Russia, let's hope for many more to come!
The best hope for Syria, I think, is a federal future in which minorities and regions decide their own affairs locally and co-exist in peace. However, that will be difficult to achieve as Iran and Turkey are likely to continue meddeling in their own interest and fan the deep divisions already existent in the country. The worst case scenario is a total collapse of the state, genocide and a civil war that never ends. I do think Syria's location and importance will prevent that from happening, however.
To end on a positive note: this is a major blow for the regimes in both Iran and Russia, let's hope for many more to come!
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This is one of those storms that unfurled when Hamas flapped its butterfly wings on October 7th.
Good job, Hamas. You woke the sleeping giant, got Hezbollah obliterated, got Iran humiliatied, and so suddenly Assad no longer had any material or military support from Iran & Hezbollah to stand with him against the radical rebel horde. I'm sure Russia wasn't as generous as it had previously been since it has a little project of its own going on.
I can't think of any country that will have a broader smile across its lips this morning than Saudi Arabia.
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Israel is also pretty happy, they never let an opportunity to grab more land go to waste.
Dont be surprised when Israel gets a little piece of Syria when this is all said and done.
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There is buzz now that Assad was killed by his plane being downed, now. Apparently Reuters initially posted then withdrew the report.
kyivindependent.com
Assad killed in plane crash? Buzz as Syrian Air flight disappears from radar
Also:
Reuters reports Assad may have died in plane crash, later removes report
Reuters on Dec. 8 reported, citing its Syrian sources that "there was a very high probability that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may have been killed in a plane crash" as he was fleeing Damascus following its capture by rebels. Reuters later deleted the information from its reporting.
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There is buzz now that Assad was killed by his plane being downed, now. Apparently Reuters initially posted then withdrew the report.
Assad killed in plane crash? Buzz as Syrian Air flight disappears from radar
Also:
Reuters reports Assad may have died in plane crash, later removes report
Reuters on Dec. 8 reported, citing its Syrian sources that "there was a very high probability that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may have been killed in a plane crash" as he was fleeing Damascus following its capture by rebels. Reuters later deleted the information from its reporting.
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You're too many countries away. The analogy that will be drawn will be to Raisi. Or, in other words, wait for it, trust me, a spoiler alert...
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Hate to quote myself, but it appears the latest headlines is Assad has arrived safely in Moscow.
I will give him a tiny crumb of respect that he bailed instead of convincing whatever loyalists he had left to fight to the death.
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Great, lets send a bunch of our tax dollars to Islamic Terrorists rather than spend it in our own country.
Is the US going to keep the 30% of Syria that they control (with the oil fields and wheat) or give that back?
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Those greedy land grabbers are already doing that...
They're also bombing the shit out of infrastructure in Syria right now...
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I assume yes the aid will probably be paid by proceeds of Syria oil.
it's like Germany "not paying it's fair share of defebse" in NATO and USa paying too much when Germany is forced to buy energy from US instead of cheaper Russian prices. It's all weird and circular with Germany giving money to USA that gives it back to NATO budget.
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I imagine Turkey, Iraq and Israel are all going to carve off a nice little chunk and make a “buffer zone”
