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I understand that this thread could easily be moved to the S&C forum but because the subject is supplemental exercises for striking and Karate, I thought the interested parties would be in this forum and might not see it in the other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hojo_undō
http://www.iogkfspain.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=58&lang=en
Hojo undo is the Japanese term for supplemental exercises. There are many different exercises, and the list seems to include all forms of impact conditioning, wrist conditioning, heavy bag striking and weight training.
It is my experience, even with people in modern knockdown karate, that there is an unhealthy relationship with the idea of working out. This dysfunction comes from a couple of sources.
Whole schools seem to shun weight training. Some even shun pad work. Of those that shun pad work and weights may exalt impact conditioning so that mudansha believe that it is only for the dan grades or even the dan grades from the old school - who of course are superior.
My sense is that this dysfunction comes from a couple of sources.
1 - Instructors that transmitted Karate to westerners didn't have gear, so they didn't transmit the supplemental exercises. Not wanting to look as if it was incomplete karate, chose not to bring it up. Now people think it isn't a part of the tradition, even if it was.
2 - Karate instructors still do not have that gear and do not want to lose students to Golds Gym, so they maintain that Hojo undo doesn't really exist.
3 - Even if people know about Hojo undo, lacking the Japanese terms or an old curriculum / training manual, martial artists were forced to make it up, adopting practices from other sports according to their own knowledge. Even if Karateka do Hojo undo, they think that it is regular fitness training and not a part of Karate. Their students, thinking that it isn't a part of Karate, may downplay its importance.
4 - The idea that proper striking technique is so deadly that a weak person can wreck a strong person undercuts the sense of urgency.
5 - Old school Hojo undo might be outright rejected as bro-science by Karateka that aren't interested in screwing around with stone padlocks or buckets of sand, preferring the training methods from sports that they grew up with.
A little about me. I love making lists. I just fucking love it. When I have a list I can do everything on it. I love lists and I love checking things off lists, and if I don't have a list I'll make a list.
What is the new school Hojo undo, supplemental exercises / S&C for martial artists, seeking to integrate their martial arts and work out routine?
In the next post, I'm going to post what I think of as the simplest curriculum and you guys can tell me what you think. I'm going to do my best to KISS so it will probably exclude intermediate and advanced power lifting and body building models.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hojo_undō
http://www.iogkfspain.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=58&lang=en
Hojo undo is the Japanese term for supplemental exercises. There are many different exercises, and the list seems to include all forms of impact conditioning, wrist conditioning, heavy bag striking and weight training.
It is my experience, even with people in modern knockdown karate, that there is an unhealthy relationship with the idea of working out. This dysfunction comes from a couple of sources.
Whole schools seem to shun weight training. Some even shun pad work. Of those that shun pad work and weights may exalt impact conditioning so that mudansha believe that it is only for the dan grades or even the dan grades from the old school - who of course are superior.
My sense is that this dysfunction comes from a couple of sources.
1 - Instructors that transmitted Karate to westerners didn't have gear, so they didn't transmit the supplemental exercises. Not wanting to look as if it was incomplete karate, chose not to bring it up. Now people think it isn't a part of the tradition, even if it was.
2 - Karate instructors still do not have that gear and do not want to lose students to Golds Gym, so they maintain that Hojo undo doesn't really exist.
3 - Even if people know about Hojo undo, lacking the Japanese terms or an old curriculum / training manual, martial artists were forced to make it up, adopting practices from other sports according to their own knowledge. Even if Karateka do Hojo undo, they think that it is regular fitness training and not a part of Karate. Their students, thinking that it isn't a part of Karate, may downplay its importance.
4 - The idea that proper striking technique is so deadly that a weak person can wreck a strong person undercuts the sense of urgency.
5 - Old school Hojo undo might be outright rejected as bro-science by Karateka that aren't interested in screwing around with stone padlocks or buckets of sand, preferring the training methods from sports that they grew up with.
A little about me. I love making lists. I just fucking love it. When I have a list I can do everything on it. I love lists and I love checking things off lists, and if I don't have a list I'll make a list.
What is the new school Hojo undo, supplemental exercises / S&C for martial artists, seeking to integrate their martial arts and work out routine?
In the next post, I'm going to post what I think of as the simplest curriculum and you guys can tell me what you think. I'm going to do my best to KISS so it will probably exclude intermediate and advanced power lifting and body building models.