Study: Short-Term Steroid Use Has Lasting Effects

[Friedrich]

New research from scientists at the University of Oslo finds that even brief steroid intake can have permanent effects on the user

 

[Lab Made]

Don't use it. plain and simple.

 

[Bokelj]

Not a specialist so I can't talk about cycles and "responsible" use of roids but a 4 year + ban would be a career killer. If all sports join hands and create a unified way of testing, for all sports equal they would be able to ban the use of roids.

Also probably a lot of studies have been done contradicting this finding

 

[Ironmonger]

Man if it is what it is i want to take steroids now

 

[NoContest]

Also probably a lot of studies have been done contradicting this finding

And then some studies contradicted those studies but they were subsequently contradicted by new studies.

No wonder bro science is catching on since scientists can't get their sh*t straight.

 

[Rubberman1]

3 years I think but hey im sure someone will say not at all

 

[Boonedoggle]

In case you want to know how the study was conducted...
http://www.mn.uio.no/ibv/english/re...ig-dopingbruk-kan-ha-permanente-effekter.html

 

[Rubberman1]

Not a specialist so I can't talk about cycles and "responsible" use of roids but a 4 year + ban would be a career killer. If all sports join hands and create a unified way of testing, for all sports equal they would be able to ban the use of roids.

Also probably a lot of studies have been done contradicting this finding

that should be the point though if you cheat your carrer deserves to be destroyed , because in the process you may destroy other peoples careers

 

[AFewDollarsMore]

one day cycle here I come

 

[Ironmonger]

And then some studies contradicted those studies but they were subsequently contradicted by new studies.

No wonder bro science is catching on since scientists can't get their sh*t straight.

haha true that

bro science works

 

[Toco]

so lets put a 4 year ban

 

[MSieur Le Bossu]

The research is conducted on mice, but due to similar biological mechanism in mammals, they anticipate similar results among humans.

What say you Sherdog? If someone is busted for steriods, how long should they be excluded from competition?

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-f...hort-Term-Steroid-Use-Has-Lasting-Effect.html

There's a wide variety of steroids which have different results and have different potential types of side effects. That study doesn't state which type(s) of steroids they used on the mice. There's no indication whether they used a variety of steroids or a single one (Single being the most likely scenario, and likely one of the more powerful/dangerous roids like d-bol).

I've said it in other steroid-related threads, and I'll say it here. Generalizing all types of steroids as the same thing is akin to generalizing recreational drugs such as marijuana, heroin, and cocaine as the exact same thing. It's ludicrous.

 

[Northern]

Not a specialist so I can't talk about cycles and "responsible" use of roids but a 4 year + ban would be a career killer. If all sports join hands and create a unified way of testing, for all sports equal they would be able to ban the use of roids.

Also probably a lot of studies have been done contradicting this finding

A four year ban might indeed be a career killer, but it is also equally unfair to allow athletes who use/test positive for steroids to fight again if they are still receiving the benefit of their steroid use. According to the article a 1 or even four year ban might not be sufficient to return the cheating athlete to baseline.

In my opinion, there is no middle ground when it comes to cheating and steroids. If a 4 year or even a 10 year ban is needed, then so be it. If an athlete knowingly took a PED to gain an advantage, they deserve everything that comes their way.

 

[Lito Lapida]

Ima try some soon.

 

[SuperLuigi]

2 years in MMA is a total game changer, but I wouldnt be opposed to it being increased.

 

[Irenaeus]

Also probably a lot of studies have been done contradicting this finding

And then some studies contradicted those studies but they were subsequently contradicted by new studies.

Do you know of any well-conducted contradictory studies, or are you just assuming these exists?

Because while the first one would be interesting, the latter isn't a very useful approach to knowledge.

 

[Bokelj]

A four year ban might indeed be a career killer, but it is also equally unfair to allow athletes who use/test positive for steroids to fight again if they are still receiving the benefit of their steroid use. According to the article a 1 or even four year ban might not be sufficient to return the cheating athlete to baseline.

In my opinion, there is no middle ground when it comes to cheating and steroids. If a 4 year or even a 10 year ban is needed, then so be it. If an athlete knowingly took a PED to gain an advantage, they deserve everything that comes their way.

You need to have a set of rules to back it up then. Nutritional mistakes can be made, 10 years is too high then. They need a whole list of banned substances, nutritional hazards and information along with unified testing for all fighters. When fighters are well informed and know they will get tested, not randomly but systematically you will see a change

 

[Irenaeus]

There's a wide variety of steroids which have different results and have different potential types of side effects. That study doesn't state which type(s) of steroids they used on the mice. There's no indication whether they used a variety of steroids or a single one (Single being the most likely scenario, and likely one of the more powerful/dangerous roids like d-bol).

A quick search for the actual abstract shows that Testosterone Propionate was used.

 

[Bokelj]

Do you know of any well-conducted contradictory studies, or are you just assuming these exists?

Because while the first one would be interesting, the latter isn't a very useful approach to knowledge.

I'm basing it off of inconsistency of health institute and research labs that find what they set out to find.

Meat is good, meat is evil. Eat potatoes, don't eat potatoes.

The problem with "research" today is that they go out with a purpose to prove something and actually find out what they set out to find, surprise surprise. I'm not into the roiding thing, I believe the results can be long lasting but I can see how cycling correctly can limit the risk

 

[Northern]

You need to have a set of rules to back it up then. Nutritional mistakes can be made, 10 years is too high then. They need a whole list of banned substances, nutritional hazards and information along with unified testing for all fighters. When fighters are well informed and know they will get tested, not randomly but systematically you will see a change

I agree the science should be sound, if they are going to start handing out 4year/10 year/ career ending bans, and full upfront notice of all banned drugs to any athletes. PED drug testing has improved immensely and false positives are extremely rare. Saying that accidents happen and an independent appeals process should be provided.

*This is all based on the study that found steroids positive benefits stay in body much longer than thought. If new science shows this is not the case, I would be open to shorter suspensions.