Study on high guard

[shs101]

What do you wiser folks in here think about an advanced/active high guard (boxing)?

Whats the most important things to do? Head movement and distractions come to mind ie canelo,tyson,starling......

But then you have fighters who dont pre empty move their head that utilize some sort of ear muffs, joshua clottey,ponce de leon, just to name a few...

Who do you think is a great example of someone with a high guard in boxing offensively and defensively?

Thanks sherdog!

 

[Babba]

check out lomachenko. he does pretty much everything you should do. a few things he does its legit to not agree with, but hes pretty ideal.


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[shinkyoku]

I think you will get a lot of answers that involves muay thai and kickboxing.
The pure boxing forum is http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f53/

 

[shs101]

check out lomachenko. he does pretty much everything you should do. a few things he does its legit to not agree with, but hes pretty ideal.


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Awesome, I forgot about him....for sure a style that interests me.

 

[shpboris]

Lomachenko is a really good example ...

Interesting example of successful usage of very straightforward high guard
against top level opponent is Arslan vs Huck -

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[shpboris]

But generally there are a lot of boxers who rely mostly on that type of defense -
Abraham, Silvester, Clottey, Huck, Arslan.

Some of the more advanced examples - Felix Sturm, Ronald Wright, Lomachenko.

 

[Sinister]

I think you will get a lot of answers that involves muay thai and kickboxing.
The pure boxing forum is http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f53/

That section is about the goings on in the Sport. Not so much how to fight.

 

[shs101]

That section is about the goings on in the Sport. Not so much how to fight.

Hey Sin do you want to drop any knowledge on this topic? Im sure most could benefit!

 

[Sinister]

No. I don't really teach high guard nuances.

 

[Babba]

seems to me a lot of german boxers use the high guard. i dont really know what they teach over at sauerland but these german high profile fighters all have this type of guard. not as dynamic as lomachenko

 

[shpboris]

seems to me a lot of german boxers use the high guard. i dont really know what they teach over at sauerland but these german high profile fighters all have this type of guard. not as dynamic as lomachenko

Yes, it is very widespread in Germany ... In Russia it is even called "German system"
But even in Europe it is considered by many as a primitive approach ...

As for Lomachenko, high guard is only one of the elements of his game\defense and ,IMO, not even the most important ...

 

[Babba]

Yes, it is very widespread in Germany ... In Russia it is even called "German system"
But even in Europe it is considered by many as a primitive approach ...

As for Lomachenko, high guard is only one of the elements of his game\defense and ,IMO, not even the most important ...

yeah, his movement and combinations are much more advanced. hes gonna be a star

 

[MurphysLawyer]

There was a thread similar to this a while ago based on Robin van Roosmalen, Curtis Stevens was brought up too. It was actually my introduction to Stevens, who I've since learned a good bit from watching.

I think the answer we came up with was that it actually takes a shit ton of practice, because it requires the user to be very relaxed and know the proper counter and be able to see it in an instant

 

[Babba]

There was a thread similar to this a while ago based on Robin van Roosmalen, Curtis Stevens was brought up too. It was actually my introduction to Stevens, who I've since learned a good bit from watching.

I think the answer we came up with was that it actually takes a shit ton of practice, because it requires the user to be very relaxed and know the proper counter and be able to see it in an instant

something i think is a great example of this is amir khan. just the ability to very quickly explode in combination or punch from the guard when thers a chance. u have to be fast and have good movement and comibnations.

imo his fight vs paulie is good example of the difference there

 

[Spirit Breaker]

Another Cus D'Amato student, Jose Torres, utilized the high guard "peek-a-boo" style, but wasn't the wrecking machine Tyson was, or the lunging left hook specialist Patterson was. He was a bit more balanced.

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