strength in the clinch

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This is a bit of a conditioning/stand up hybrid....

What kind of excersises/weights/drills are good for developing a strong lock in the thai clinch?
 
always have drills with someone who is good with clinch, You can have exercise with someone who is taller than you. IF you can control him in the thai clinch, then you can propably beat your opponent in the clinch
 
You don't need a "strong lock". Good clinch work comes from technique and balance, not strength.

Daido_Juku's advice is solid. Practice a lot, preferably with taller opponents.
 
You don't need a "strong lock". Good clinch work comes from technique and balance, not strength.

Daido_Juku's advice is solid. Practice a lot, preferably with taller opponents.

like he said, the clinch is all technique. if you go in there and start trying to muscle your way around you are going to be out of breath in about 5 seconds.

For excersises....any kind of neck excersise you can think of!
 
like he said, the clinch is all technique. if you go in there and start trying to muscle your way around you are going to be out of breath in about 5 seconds.

For excersises....any kind of neck excersise you can think of!

Dead on
 
always have drills with someone who is good with clinch, You can have exercise with someone who is taller than you. IF you can control him in the thai clinch, then you can propably beat your opponent in the clinch

thats how i got good at the clinch... drilling with dudes that are taller and 50 pounds heavier than me (keep in mind... im a small dude).
 
Watch Anderson ""master of the clintch" Slva. His forearms get locked under his opponents jaw, that makes you feel very helpless
 
While technique is always number one, let's get real here: strong neck and back muscles are still very important.
 
i always heard pull ups helped with getting a stronger clinch. they both use simlilar muscle groups.
 
as noted below, technique is critical. However, given two opponents both with good technique, strength does play a big factor. This could likely be argued to death! But, in my opinion strength in the clinch can compensate for mediocre technique!

Exercises: neck rolls, pull-ups, ab and core work (not enough credit goes to abdominal strength, one of the most important muscle in the clinch).

I took a piece of large PVC pipe (6in diameter)and ran a rope through it, then hung it to do pull ups. The larger pipe diameter makes using the same type of hand over hand grip that you would use in a clinch, to do pull ups.
 
if you want to get good in the clinch, forget about the double neck tie. There are much better positions to be in.

The double neck tie is almost never seen in Thailand anymore.
 
Technique, technique, technique. Just focus on getting stronger all over and improving your technique.

Here's a short routine I like to do to condition my neck...

Lie on your back with your head raised a few inches off the mat and do these six rounds, between each round hold your head/neck straight for 10 seconds.

- nod forward (chin to chest) x10
- nod backwards (back of head almost hits mat) x10
- right ear to right shoulder x10
- left ear to left shoulder x10
- turn head to the right x10
- turn head to the left x10

Then after the last round hold your head up for 20 seconds. To make it harder you can do more reps or hold for longer between each round. This won't give you a huge neck or anything but I find it helps condition my neck so it doesn't get sore from clinch work. I hadn't done it for a few months and I paid the price when we did 3 straight classes of clinch work last week.

You could also invest in a neck harness if you are that serious about strengthening your neck:
harnessm.jpg

Neck Harness
 
On saying that if you have big forearms you can choke your opponent

but other than that i cant think of any strength advantages
 
Technique, technique, technique. Just focus on getting stronger all over and improving your technique.

Here's a short routine I like to do to condition my neck...

Lie on your back with your head raised a few inches off the mat and do these six rounds, between each round hold your head/neck straight for 10 seconds.

- nod forward (chin to chest) x10
- nod backwards (back of head almost hits mat) x10
- right ear to right shoulder x10
- left ear to left shoulder x10
- turn head to the right x10
- turn head to the left x10

Then after the last round hold your head up for 20 seconds. To make it harder you can do more reps or hold for longer between each round. This won't give you a huge neck or anything but I find it helps condition my neck so it doesn't get sore from clinch work. I hadn't done it for a few months and I paid the price when we did 3 straight classes of clinch work last week.

You could also invest in a neck harness if you are that serious about strengthening your neck:
harnessm.jpg

Neck Harness

you can just get some rope and some weights, and lift them with your teeth. If you don't want to pay for some fancy harness.
 
Good techinque is important but raw all over power has its advantages as well. Hit your Olympic style lifts.
 
Another neck exercise is to take a stability ball and lean against it forehead only against a wall
 
You don't need a "strong lock". Good clinch work comes from technique and balance, not strength.

Daido_Juku's advice is solid. Practice a lot, preferably with taller opponents.

very true, I'm a young guy and not a very strong one but people say I have good clinch control because I use my whole body and have good technique while clinching.

To improve your clinch game, neck exercises, grip exercises and forearm exercises are the most useful. Clinch Sparring with people who have really good clinches or with tall people also really help.
 
We use a towel rolled up and draped over our chin up bar. You hold the ends and do pull ups. Gives you great grip.
 
if you want to get good in the clinch, forget about the double neck tie. There are much better positions to be in.

The double neck tie is almost never seen in Thailand anymore.

Not going against what you're saying bro cos I always agree with your comments, but I will add I think the double neck is useful against people with far far weaker/no clinch skills. If you get tight double neck on someone that has no idea what they're doing or even someone that wil try to pull out backwards rather than drive into you, you can pummel them; for example I remember recently on here peopel were talking about that tall guy that just literally clinched and kneed another guy for half a round, and it worked because the guy on the other end had no idea at all what to do and was trying to block them with his arms or something.
 
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