Stepping On Opponents Feet?

[BJ@LW&WW]

After the mitrione fight, i got to wondering does anyone specifically train to step on an opponents foot when it is southpaw vs. orthodox? it would immobilize or throw your opponent off balance wouldn't it? seems like an interesting idea.

 

[Devonmac95]

After the mitrione fight, i got to wondering does anyone specifically train to step on an opponents foot when it is southpaw vs. orthodox? it would immobilize or throw your opponent off balance wouldn't it? seems like an interesting idea.

in an actual match it doesnt really work, since it can be tough to aim your foot onto theirs, and even if u get it, it imobolizes both of you, and the other guy can easily slide his foot out.

 

[Tug]

As a southpaw I like to slide my right foot across when they're taking big/lazy steps on a jab so it takes their step from under them tripping them up. A little is enough to stagger them which is good against punch spammers. I can't imagine stepping on feet being that useful in the flow of a fight but I'm not that experienced.

 

[PivotPunch]

in an actual match it doesnt really work, since it can be tough to aim your foot onto theirs, and even if u get it, it imobolizes both of you, and the other guy can easily slide his foot out.

I'm pretty sure many fighters do it on purpose. It only immobilizes the other guy fighters usually try to step on the opponent's foot when they attack and if you step on the foot of someone you can step away at any moment but they can't.
It may work better in boxing with shoes since the foot is stuck even more but it should still work in MMA

 

[Devonmac95]

I'm pretty sure many fighters do it on purpose. It only immobilizes the other guy fighters usually try to step on the opponent's foot when they attack and if you step on the foot of someone you can step away at any moment but they can't.
It may work better in boxing with shoes since the foot is stuck even more but it should still work in MMA

yeah i was thinking barefoot its super easy to slide your foot out (especially if sweaty), unless the guy puts a lot of his weight on it, but that may put him off balance. in boxing i agree, the foot is stuck pretty well. also good point on the immobolizing, i was thinking if they step and just try and hold it there, but i guess they could do it when attacking but then it would have to be opposite stances to really do it effectively, even then stepping on the foot while attacking isnt that effective (all it does is make it harder for them to take a full step back, but they can still slide back out of range of the first strike and counter), its just better IMO to focus more on your attack and there potential counter than to add another thing to focus on that wont help much

 

[PivotPunch]

yeah i was thinking barefoot its super easy to slide your foot out (especially if sweaty), unless the guy puts a lot of his weight on it, but that may put him off balance. in boxing i agree, the foot is stuck pretty well.

But even without shoes it should trap the other guy at least for a second which is enough to land one punch which is most of the time anyway all for which it is used and you can't really pull the foot out too hard you you throw yourself off balance horribly

 

[PointyShinyBurn]

In MMA you could do more than land a punch with a stepped-on foot. Observe how Yazdani gets his singles: http://youtu.be/MGGgXUHEgPY

 

[Devonmac95]

But even without shoes it should trap the other guy at least for a second which is enough to land one punch which is most of the time anyway all for which it is used and you can't really pull the foot out too hard you you throw yourself off balance horribly

i dont doubt it can work, im just saying IMO it would probably be better to focus on other things. There are pros and cons to everything, and how i see this argument is that im biased towards the cons and you are biased towards the pros.

 

[nefti]

mayweather did it against juda

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

yeah i was thinking barefoot its super easy to slide your foot out (especially if sweaty), unless the guy puts a lot of his weight on it, but that may put him off balance. in boxing i agree, the foot is stuck pretty well. also good point on the immobolizing, i was thinking if they step and just try and hold it there, but i guess they could do it when attacking but then it would have to be opposite stances to really do it effectively, even then stepping on the foot while attacking isnt that effective (all it does is make it harder for them to take a full step back, but they can still slide back out of range of the first strike and counter), its just better IMO to focus more on your attack and there potential counter than to add another thing to focus on that wont help much

if you were to 'slide your foot out', wouldnt you be putting yourself out of position in a way?

In MMA you could do more than land a punch with a stepped-on foot. Observe how Yazdani gets his singles: http://youtu.be/MGGgXUHEgPY

ahh very cool. first one he does in the video is at 1:15 but he does it multiple times after too.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I'm a southpaw with a gnarly nail on my right big toe after having several ingrown toenail operations on it. The cause was repeatedly getting stepped on and irritated during sparring.

Anyone who purposely steps on a southpaws foot deserves to be trapped in a vw bug with a gassy dr. Phil on a cross country road trip.

 

[Devonmac95]

if you were to 'slide your foot out', wouldnt you be putting yourself out of position in a way?

not really, have your friend step on your lead foot with his foot, its pretty easy to just take a step back with your rear foot, and the lead foot will follow; if he puts a ton of weight on your lead foot, he wont be very well balanced. it seems like you guys have never had someone step on your foot before, i mean yeah it can help you land a quick jab stepping in as opposite stances, but its not gonna be a game changer, and it can get you punished if you focus on it too much.

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

well mitrione was certainly off balance.

 

[PivotPunch]

yeah i was thinking barefoot its super easy to slide your foot out (especially if sweaty), unless the guy puts a lot of his weight on it, but that may put him off balance. in boxing i agree, the foot is stuck pretty well. also good point on the immobolizing, i was thinking if they step and just try and hold it there, but i guess they could do it when attacking but then it would have to be opposite stances to really do it effectively, even then stepping on the foot while attacking isnt that effective (all it does is make it harder for them to take a full step back, but they can still slide back out of range of the first strike and counter), its just better IMO to focus more on your attack and there potential counter than to add another thing to focus on that wont help much

It's of course only a little trick nothing you can really focus on.
But no in no scenario you can really immobilize someone that way for more than a few seconds. And yes it usually has to be opposite stances for it to work or else it would also "accidentely" happen in boxing fights.
No they can't slide out of the way at least not as easily and if they manage to do it it would still be slower.
I'm not even speculating as already said look at the Mitrione - Gonzaga fight. Gonzaga stepped on Mitrione's foot and tried to punch and Mitrione tried to pull back but lost balance and almost fell down. It does work

 

[Tug]

not really, have your friend step on your lead foot with his foot, its pretty easy to just take a step back with your rear foot, and the lead foot will follow; if he puts a ton of weight on your lead foot, he wont be very well balanced. it seems like you guys have never had someone step on your foot before, i mean yeah it can help you land a quick jab stepping in as opposite stances, but its not gonna be a game changer, and it can get you punished if you focus on it too much.

also the slide should not be a big committed movement. i actually slide inward as it's easier to get on the outside if they're stumbling in on themselves, and it affects their balance more.

 

[Phlog]

Orthodox v orthodox I step on peoples lead foot occasionally, on purpose, just to fuck with people a bit. No training needed. Like there's no training needed to pull their lead hand down with your lead.

 

[BudoNoah]

We do teach to step on the lead foot every now and then, to slow the opponent's retreat and off-balance them slightly. It's not necessarily a game-changer, but it's a nice trick to have--particularly when someone keeps backing just out of range.

 

[SteelHammer]

I'm REALLY liking this idea of stepping on the foot --> single leg. Also, it seems like a good opportunity to grab his head for a knee in MMA, since he's going to be too off-balance to avoid it. I'm talking about the first split second after stepping on the foot off course, there's no way you can stay on his foot for more than a second without one or both of you stumbling

 

[Paradigm]

theres a guy that does (tries to do, since im onto him now) to me in MT sparring all the time. always makes me uncomfortable since i remember what happened to Jon Tuck on TUF...

i guess in boxing, it doesnt matter because you wear shoes but in MT...

 

[facePuncher7]

Yeah, stepping on feet is good, kick him in the junk while you're at it, teep him in the face as he doubles over, then clothesline his corner man off the ring apron for good measure.