Spinning Back Kick Set-Up

[td82394]

How do some of you guys do it? I like to fake a jab or a lead side kick and then try and spin. My sensei says he likes to draw back and invite his opponent in and then do it. What do you guys do?

 

[Frode Falch]

 

[td82394]

Dealio. Thanks Frode Falch, but I pretty much already do that. I wasn't really looking for an instructional. Just an intelligent conversation with peers.

 

[Wow Exuberant**]

Edit: I know its a turning side kick, but live with it

 

[HulmeHardy**]

I also try alot of feints with my leading foot, jus practice turning your foot but without going for it - it can also work by faking a hook or throwing a crap one but using the pivot motion of your foot to got to a spinning back kick.

 

[entersherdog]

@1:40

There's delay. I think he broke the sound barrier...

 

[Knuckleheads]

Great instructional video for those who never excuted this technique correctly.

 

[Cannon_6]

I never "set up" spinning kicks, because I never use them offensively. But if an opponent moves backward and makes me whiff a round kick, I'll sometimes continue spinning around and throw a side kick with the opposite leg. If everything goes well, he walks right into it as he moves in to take advantage of my missed kick.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I never "set up" spinning kicks, because I never use them offensively. But if an opponent moves backward and makes me whiff a round kick, I'll sometimes continue spinning around and throw a side kick with the opposite leg. If everything goes well, he walks right into it as he moves in to take advantage of my missed kick.

see: nam phan. he plastered leonard garcia with this technique during the TUF 12 finale.

 

[CELS]

I never "set up" spinning kicks, because I never use them offensively.

I was taught never to do a spinning kick offensively, but I've found that it's not a matter of using it offensively or not, it's just a matter of setting it up. Hell, people have used it offensively with great success in MMA and K-1 for a while. It obviously works. (I'm sure you're talking about personal preferences, but anyway)

As for the video posted by Frode Falch... I don't know. I think some of those are going to be hard against people who are used to dealing with back kicks. Especially the one where your opponent is backing away after blocking your jab.

Using it as a counter to the high roundhouse kick is very effective, though I can't do it. I usually do it kind of like his first set-up, except I don't open with a jab. If you've got your opponent up against a corner in the ring, position yourself so that he has to either come at you or move to one side. Usually, he's going to move to that side to get out of the corner, and then you throw the back kick in the direction he's going. This is also how I set up spinning heel kicks, depending on the angle.

 

[Doughbelly]

I've always had a problem with this nomenclature.

Thinking about back kicks as "spinning" kicks screws up the perception of the technique. There's no "spin" involved - the foot is coming coming from the other way. It is a linear technique and the closer the motion is to a straight line, the more efficient the technique will be.

Look at kryllo's back kick tutorial. As good as it gets to being straight line.

YouTube - Back Kick tutorial.

The only thing I don't like about this is how he sometimes rocks back onto his heel.

 

[lord_kader]

Thinking about back kicks as "spinning" kicks screws up the perception of the technique. There's no "spin" involved - the foot is coming coming from the other way. It is a linear technique and the closer the motion is to a straight line, the more efficient the technique will be.

that is like saying a spinning hook kick isnt spinning b/c its the same as hook kick but you turn 180 degrees first. its called a spinning back kick b/c you jump and then turn/spin in the air 180 degrees.

a regular back kick is linear tho so maybe you mean back kick? difference is a back kick your feet are planted on the ground and a spinning back kick is the jumping one. i always see this mistake when referring to this kick so i never know which one people are talking about.

using a regular back kick you can go offensive but the only problem with being offensive is that if they are backing up you are losing some of the force. it is probably the strongest kick there is but it is kind of slow (not saying people like cung le arent fast with it. its just a slow technique compared to a round house or front kick) and wouldnt be fast enough to be a counter.

a SPINNING back kick is purely used as a counter. with this technique you give up some of the power of people planted on the ground to make it faster by jumping into it. this is what makes it so effective as a counter. it is still a pretty strong kick and since it is using your opponents momentum coming forward it does more damage than the back kick (unless of course when using the back kick somebody is coming forward as well but most of the case it is too slow to hit before your opponents attack and is usually used offensively where, as stated earlier, your opponent can take off some of the force by stepping back with the blow)


my favorite ways to set the spinning back kick up is probably push kicking them and when they try and re-close the distance with footwork, a punch, or a round kick on me they are going pretty fast forward and it gives me room and time to get them on the end of the kick where there is a ton of power.

the thing about this kick is that it is situational. although it can hurt at all times it is most effective when used correctly. if he is doing a round house kick with his left leg and you throw a left leg spinning back kick counter he has better chances to catch your kick on his leg instead of on his abdomen.

if he is kicking with his left leg you need to throw a right leg spinning back kick so that it is coming from the opposite side of his attack so they dont clash and you land flush. this is also more effective b/c when throwing a round kick your are turning your hips into it so if he throws a right leg round house kick and you throw the left leg SBK his hips are going the opposite way of your kick so they are meeting head on meaning more damage

 

[peanut66]

the way i was taught back kick was , both heels turn toward target , head turns towards target same time , picking up your back leg , chambering to chest , and thrusting backawards motion always looking at the target , the thrusting backwards motion is very similar to side kick motion ,,,, kind of exactly as joe rogan demonstrated ,,btw his technique was almost perfect ,,,,

the other video posted by kyrillo , with all due respects ,, the kicker was not looking at target at all , he was looking at the ground ,,in the opposite direction , which is recipe for a kick in the face and it is harder to finish the kick and land forward ,,,,

some tips i wouldnt mind passing to whoever want them ,,,,ive been working on a sort of plant pivot attacking back kick ,,simliar to mauy thai plant pivot round house kick ,,,,
imagine your lead leg forward ,moving forward foot to the left or right ,planting and then pivoting all the way , kicking the back kick ,,,,also bringing your lead foot back towards your other foot on an angle and then kicking , also shuffling it forward and then kicking ,,,

these types of steps prior to back kick works wonders on in close fighters ,,,, guys who like to jab ,or dance away ,,with those little steps you dont need as much distance to deliver the kick and you are also given the opportunity to lead your opponent ,,,same steps also work good for spinning hook kicks ,,,

ive been modifying these steps for myself as a defense for the better boxers and also the guys who like to rush in ,,,the only guys ive seen use these steps , would be serkan yilmaz - k1 and cyrus washington k-1 im sure there are lots of others but yilmaz is a master at the step back kick ,,,, peace out , hope this helps someone

YouTube - Serkan Yilmaz Taekwondo K1 Highlights Teriyaki Boyz Feat. Pharrell Williams - L.A.R.G.E.

 

[hughes fan]

I do it as a flow. I got quite excited when I saw that people at my kickboxing club use it well and not as a flashy move when the instructor tells you that you have 10 seconds left.

 

[quatin]

Edit: I know its a turning side kick, but live with it

Well sheesh, if you want to get all techincal about it. It's just a "back kick".

And just another note, some schools teach you to back kick while looking away from your opponent. You generate more "force" this way.

 

[peanut66]

Well sheesh, if you want to get all techincal about it. It's just a "back kick".

And just another note, some schools teach you to back kick while looking away from your opponent. You generate more "force" this way.

you would be beaten with a cane for such remarks at my school lol ,,,, looking away,not only can you not see the target , you also cannot see the counter coming ,and will get punched or kicked in the face immediately after you land or deliver the kick , and your forward motion is now stopped because your head is going a different direction than your kick ,,, the force is generated from the chambering stroke of the leg , not by looking away ,,,80 percent of dudes cannot throw a back kick properly so its with no doubt that its being taught incorrectly ,, if guys are walking through your back kick you are in that 80 percent,,,same way with a boxers jab , some hurt some dont ,, just my opinion, peace out

 

[CELS]

Chuck Liddell throws the back kick without looking at his opponent. His rationale is that by the time you throw the back kick, it's too late to adjust the direction based on openings. Also, if the opponent decides to counter your back kick, you're most likely already fucked. (Assuming he times it right)

 

[peanut66]

YouTube - Serkan Yilmaz K1 fighter - WTF Taekwondo

watch serkan yilmaz,,,you will see after he hits or misses the back kick he is still ready to fight because he is looking at his opponent ,,,,

chuck liddels striking has always been considered as very sloppy ,,,

 

[ssullivan80]

Technical execution aside, my favorite way to "set it up" or throw a spinning back kick are.

- off a "fake" or feint lead leg low kick (im orth), with or without a switch (really i dont use a full "switch" kinda of a half switch), i fake the lead leg low kick and try to get my opponent to pick up that front foot to check, then i just step the lead leg across - plant on the ball of my foot - and rotate into the spin back kick in the gut. This has worked well, especially if my opponent has a tendency to pick the check leg up high on their lead....... by the time their foot comes back down my right heel is dug into their gut.

- while advancing i like to throw a spinning back kick behind a long lead hook up high, i throw the lead hook as a more slapping hook when coming forward (opponent backing up), just to get my opponent to pick up his guard to cover and give me time to turn that spin back kick into his gut underneath the high guard.... If timed well, i actually throw that slapping long lead hook while simultaneously stepping my lead foot across opponents centerline (no real power on the hook, more just a fake/distraction with that slapping hook), then just turn over and throw the SBK under their guard into the gut or high ribs. If you can time this to where your opponent is moving back into the ropes/cage/wall/etc..... and throw the kick right as his back hits the ropes...... grrrr..... you can put his belly button to his backbone!:icon_twis

 

[Arsenic]

I pull it off by setting up with a jab followed by a spinning backfist and by instinct an opponent protects their face leaving the body exposed.