So you wanna use Prohormones? FAQ

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What is a Prohormone?

Prohormones are Hormone Precursors that convert to Hormones via enzyme in the Liver. Commonly Knowns as PH's

Prohormones have the same effects as most Anabolic Steroids.

They can

-Increase Muscle Mass
-Increase Strength
-Increase Endurance
-Cut Fat (In certain Compounds)
-Reduce Recovery In between Workouts


But... Like Steroids they have side effects and it can be argued that PH's have more sides than Anabolic Steroids.


-Liver Toxicity (being these compound have to pass through the liver)

-High Blood Pressure

-Increase of LDL Cholesterol and Decrease of Good (HDL) Cholesterol

-Testicular Atrophy (this usually occurs during Post Cycle Therapy due to the Conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen)

-Gynecomastia- AKA Bitch Tits- Development of Female Breast Tissue under the nipple from Testosterone to Estrogen conversion. (This can occur while on cycle or during Post Cycle Therapy)

-Acne

-Hair Loss (From the Conversion of Testosterone to DHT AKA Dehydrotestosterone)

-Oily Skin

-Lethargy (Feeling of Exhaustion)

-Back/Calf Pumps- Painful and in some cases excruciating pains in the lower back

-Enlargement of the prostate

-Aggressiveness- Some consider this a good side effect, some don't

-Irritability


Supplements to consider when for Pre Cycle, On Cycle and Post Cycle


-RYR (Red Yeast Rice)- Helps maintain healthy Cholesterol Levels
-CoQ-10- Helps Maintain Hearth Health and Normal Cholesterol Levels
-Celery Seed- Supports Healthy Blood Pressure and Lipid Profiles
-Saw Palmetto- Maintains a Healthy Prostate
-Milk Thistle- Maintains Liver Health
-Hawthorne Berry- Supports Healthy Cholesterol Levels
-Fish Oil- Supports Health Cholesterol Levels and Hearth Health
-Taurine- Amino Acid that helps counteract painful Back Pumps


A good product that contain most of these ingredients is Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

Bodybuilding.com - Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support - On And Off-Cycle Protection! On sale now!

Note that if your Bad Cholesterol is too high and Blood Pressure is out of control you may not be able to squeeze all the gains out of the Prohormone you're taking.

-Post Cycle Therapy-

Post Cycle Therapy AKA PCT is the process of balancing your hormone levels when coming off of a cycle. With proper PCT you will be able to ensure that you keep everything you gain form the product you used. They bring Test and Estrogen Levels back to normal, solidify your gains, and restore the size of your "boys". This process of restoration can take anywhere from 3-8 weeks

What in fact you should use as your PCT is a subject of constant debate. While there are many choices and some are more powerful than others, what you choose should depend on a few things

1) The Product you are using. Some compounds are stronger than others and therefore require a more powerful PCT.
2) The dosages. Anything in high doses could induce more noticeable side effects. If you dose beyond the recommended dose, which can be done and is relatively safe, you'll experience more severe sides.
3) Personal Preference- Some people prefer different PCT compounds to others and find some work more effectively than others. The most that can be done is to read reviews and make your decisions through trial and error.

-Options for PCT-

-Over the Counter PCT's-

Popular Compounds found in these Products

-ATD (Blocks Estrogen and Boost Naturaly Testosterone but in high doses can cause a loss in Libido)
-6-bromo
-6-0X0


-Ergopharm 6-0X0
-Ergopharm 6-0X0 Extreme
-Gaspari Nutrition Novadex XT
-iForce Reversitol
-ALRI Restore
-Anabolic Xtreme aPCT
-SNS Inhibit E


Prescription Grade PCT AKA (S.E.R.M.) Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator


-Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate)
-Clomid
-Armidex

PCT is started at the end of a cycle, right away.

In some cases people begin using their PCT product during the last week or two during their cycle to be safe but it's not necessary.


Now for some of the most Popular PH/DS/


-Superdrol- Arguably the most potent and Powerful Prohormone available. It is known to have to most side effects. Big Gains in size (up to 20lbs in a cycle) and strength. Developed by Designer Supplements. This compound is for Bulking

PCT: SERM is Highly Recommended anything OTC will not be enough

Current Products with Superdrol Compound are

-CEL M-Drol
-EST Methyl Vol
-CTD Labs Supervol
-Fast Action S-Drol

-IBE Epistane/ RPN Havoc- Slightly Milder than Superdrol but Gains in size and strength are still very generous. Side Effects Profile is also lower than Superdrol. Can be used for bulking or cutting.

PCT: SERM is Highly Recommended but some users have had success with some OTC Products

Both Havoc and Epistane are the same compound, but Havoc was the first.


-Phera Plex- Highly Anabolic and Highly Androgenic. Wet Gains in Size and Strength. Great for Bulking. Slightly more potent that Superdrol. Some users have found GREAT Success when using this product (stacking it) towards the end of a Supedrol Cycle for Big Gains (30lbs is not uncommon when stacked)

Developed by Designer Supplements

PCT: SERM, like Superdrol, is highly recommended especially if you intend on stacking it with Superdrol.

Current Clones-

Genetic Edge Technologies Phera-50
CEL P-Plex


-Halodrol-50- Not the same as Halodrol Liquigels. Modest Gains in size and strength. (5-10lbs). Mild Sides. Perfect for a First PH Cycle. Can be used for Bulking or Cutting. This products is typically stacked with another PH but is perfectly fine by itself.

Developed by Gaspari Nutrition

PCT- SERM is not recommended but it would be smart to have it. Users should be fine using Novadex XT or and ATD, 6-Bromo based PCT.

Current Halodrol-50 Clones

-Chlorodrol-50
-CEL H-Drol
-EST Hemadrol
-Rock Hard Formulations Halocore



Other Popular PH's


-Orastan- A (Unmethylated Winstrol) great for cutting and hardening with very low sides.
-Tren- Great for Cutting and Hardening
-Halotest-25
-iForce Bold
-Anabolic Xtreme 3AD



Note that certain Prohormones are being Banned and or Discontinued by the FDA all the time. They are not illegal but if you plan to ever run any of them it would be smart to stock up on them while you can because the Government thinks they know what it best for us.

I hope this has helped anyone who has any questions about this stuff.

All of this was written myself on my own time.
 
O r you could just not use them, or use the real deal. The side effects rarely match the gains etc.
 
Also, and perhaps the most important.

Prohormone/ Designer Steroid Use should not be used by anyone under the age of 21!

Don't fuck around with your Hormones youngn's if you don't have to. You could screw up your endocrine system... FOR LIFE!!!!!!!


 
Steroids are actually cheaper. Most Ph's are illegal or grey matter for that fact. Like I said, the side effects outweigh the benefits, and frankly I found and others found the real deal to have less side effects. But good job on the FAQ
 
No, I think I'd rather be a man and get strong on my own. Good luck with the pussing out though.
 
sorry for the newb question TS is novadex by gaspari a pro hormone or is it something you take strictly after a cycle of pro hormones?
 
sorry for the newb question TS is novadex by gaspari a pro hormone or is it something you take strictly after a cycle of pro hormones?


from what I understand, it's advertised as a stand-alone product but is generally used for Post Cycle Therapy.

it's been a looooong time since I've looked at any of this stuff, so you will probably want to wait for someone to confirm or reject what I just wrote.


Also (again...my memory is really hazy about this topic), but claiming a gain of 20 pounds during a cycle seems rather outlandish.
 
Be a man, use a needle. But nice work on typing all that out I guess. Honestly I don't know why you would bother fucking with this stuff. It just slips through the FDA's cracks until they reissue a ban list.
 
not worth even trying dude

just get on them deads and squats

oh, and peanut butter
 
I'd rather spend the money on food, protein and maybe some creatine monohydrate.

That side effects list has about 4 area codes.

The +'s don't seem to outweigh the (possible) -'s.

Also, once you are finished your cycle, don't you lose a lot fo the weight, or is that only for AAS?

I guess the one good thing I could say was that at least it was an interesting read.
 
a lot of negative replies, i think its a good post though. there have been a lot of questions on prohormones
 

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