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So I know Roman Greco doesnt allow leg attacks at all, but what the heck is the difference between the other 3 styles??? Wikipedia is super vague
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So.... Freestyle vs Folkstyle vs Greco vs Collegiate
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Greco and Freestyle are the Olympic styles of wrestling, practised worldwide.
Collegiate wrestling is specifically the style practised at university level in the US - while similar in many respects to freestyle in what you can do, the scoring system is different - to simplify things, you could say that freestyle focuses more on big throws, whereas Collegiate focuses more on control and mat work.
Folkstyle is another name for Collegiate wrestling.
I thought wikipedia was quite clear on the topic, unless you are looking for in depth rules differences.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/...e__Freestyle__and_Greco-Roman___points_v2.pdf
Collegiate wrestling is specifically the style practised at university level in the US - while similar in many respects to freestyle in what you can do, the scoring system is different - to simplify things, you could say that freestyle focuses more on big throws, whereas Collegiate focuses more on control and mat work.
Folkstyle is another name for Collegiate wrestling.
I thought wikipedia was quite clear on the topic, unless you are looking for in depth rules differences.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/...e__Freestyle__and_Greco-Roman___points_v2.pdf
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Folk style wrestling is a sort of umbrella term that refers to the local style of wrestling unique to any given culture. But in the context of this discussion and most MMA discussion, folkstyle is collegiate wrestling in the United States.
I once posted this in another thread its pretty comprehensive.
Folkstyle does not reward pushing your opponent out of bounds. Freestyle does.
Folkstyle encourages way more prolonged engagements between wresters. If you can ride/keep an opponent wrapped up and continuously return him to the mat for a minute, you get an extra point. You cant lock your hands together during this control. On the flip side, if you escape this entanglement you also get a point. In freestyle the exchanges are much different and much quicker. There is no reward for, and no opportunity to pursue, prolonged bouts of controlling your opponent.
In folkstyle a TD is a TD, regardless of how dynamic it is. It is 2 points. In freestyle a "regular" TD like a double where your opponent is able to immediately go belly down is worth 2 points. Take your opponent off his feet and directly to his back, that's worth 4 points. In freestyle if you hit a big TD or throw and get your opponents hips above your own and that's worth 4. Get his hips up to your shoulders and that's worth 5.
A pin ends the match in both styles. There are near-falls in folkstyle which are rewarded and there are back exposure points in freestyle that are rewarded.
Lose a challenge in freestyle and you surrender a point. Not like that in folkstyle.
Folkstyle matches are 3 minutes 1st period followed by 2 two minute periods. Freestyle matches are 2 three minute periods.
In folkstyle, a 15 point advantage ends the match. In freestyle it is 10 points.
Greco roman has pretty much the same rules as freestyle but you cannot attack the legs. Because of this, Greco guys tend to be really good at throws and what is called par terre, which is the mat aspect of Olympic style wrestling.
I once posted this in another thread its pretty comprehensive.
Folkstyle does not reward pushing your opponent out of bounds. Freestyle does.
Folkstyle encourages way more prolonged engagements between wresters. If you can ride/keep an opponent wrapped up and continuously return him to the mat for a minute, you get an extra point. You cant lock your hands together during this control. On the flip side, if you escape this entanglement you also get a point. In freestyle the exchanges are much different and much quicker. There is no reward for, and no opportunity to pursue, prolonged bouts of controlling your opponent.
In folkstyle a TD is a TD, regardless of how dynamic it is. It is 2 points. In freestyle a "regular" TD like a double where your opponent is able to immediately go belly down is worth 2 points. Take your opponent off his feet and directly to his back, that's worth 4 points. In freestyle if you hit a big TD or throw and get your opponents hips above your own and that's worth 4. Get his hips up to your shoulders and that's worth 5.
A pin ends the match in both styles. There are near-falls in folkstyle which are rewarded and there are back exposure points in freestyle that are rewarded.
Lose a challenge in freestyle and you surrender a point. Not like that in folkstyle.
Folkstyle matches are 3 minutes 1st period followed by 2 two minute periods. Freestyle matches are 2 three minute periods.
In folkstyle, a 15 point advantage ends the match. In freestyle it is 10 points.
Greco roman has pretty much the same rules as freestyle but you cannot attack the legs. Because of this, Greco guys tend to be really good at throws and what is called par terre, which is the mat aspect of Olympic style wrestling.
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Thanks guys, got what I needed !
Another big difference is the overtime rules. In freestyle and greco roman there is no overtime. In the event of a tied score a set of tie breaking criteria determines a winner. The first tiebreaker is bigger move(s) (4 point move trumps 2-2 pointers), second is the fewest cautions, and the final criteria is last person to score. This is kind of a critical difference as there is always someone losing and consequently someone who has to score. US folkstyle both at the college and high school levels have some kind of overtime to decide the winner in a tied match.
Starting position is another area of difference. In freestyle you would only ever start/re-start a match on the feet. In greco it's the same, but after a passivity the other wrestler can choose to start in par terre (on the mat). In folkstyle the first period is neutral with one wrestler getting choice to start the second and the other to start the third. They can chose to start neutral or on the mat in referee's position (either top or bottom). Restarts generally happen in the position action was stopped. Ex. Wrestler on top starts in top referees position. If it was stopped for a non-bleeding non-concussion injury the injured wrestlers opponent gets to chose how to restart the match. There is position choice in overtime tiebreakers too, but that is a little different in high school and college.
Finally that rules sheet linked to above is a little out of date. It has NF as 2 or 3 points in folkstyle. That's the high school rule, though you can get a 4 point near fall if the match is stopped after a 3 point NF has been earned because of an injury to the wrestler in danger or because he screams out. In college the rule was changed maybe two years making a 3 point NF worth 4 points. It also has freestyle and greco as three independently scored 2:00 periods. That changed maybe 5 years ago. Both freestyle and greco have 2 3:00 periods with cumulative scoring.
Starting position is another area of difference. In freestyle you would only ever start/re-start a match on the feet. In greco it's the same, but after a passivity the other wrestler can choose to start in par terre (on the mat). In folkstyle the first period is neutral with one wrestler getting choice to start the second and the other to start the third. They can chose to start neutral or on the mat in referee's position (either top or bottom). Restarts generally happen in the position action was stopped. Ex. Wrestler on top starts in top referees position. If it was stopped for a non-bleeding non-concussion injury the injured wrestlers opponent gets to chose how to restart the match. There is position choice in overtime tiebreakers too, but that is a little different in high school and college.
Finally that rules sheet linked to above is a little out of date. It has NF as 2 or 3 points in folkstyle. That's the high school rule, though you can get a 4 point near fall if the match is stopped after a 3 point NF has been earned because of an injury to the wrestler in danger or because he screams out. In college the rule was changed maybe two years making a 3 point NF worth 4 points. It also has freestyle and greco as three independently scored 2:00 periods. That changed maybe 5 years ago. Both freestyle and greco have 2 3:00 periods with cumulative scoring.
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