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Should junk food and sugary drinks be allowed to be bought with EBT/SNAP?

Basically, unhealthy foods.

The argument against is that people who eat junk processed foods and sugary drinks are guaranteed to be unhealthy and have a much lower lifespan

They'll be on medical assistance, healthy people subsidizing their medical bills

and health people also subsidizing their unhealthy foods
 
Heck yeah, it should
I buy EBT cards off people all the time, I aint trying to be stuck with a cart full of broccoli and apples, dog!


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Give with one, regulate with the other. The more they give you the more control over you they expect
 
I like WICs model better.

Use the assistance to buy the necessities, as outlined on the pre-printed checks themselves, that ensure kids grow into healthy, well-adjusted and successful adults. Use discretionary income for junk foods.
 
The real follow up question:
In your typical Walmart, how much food there is that’s healthy? One entire aisle of cereal, one of soda, one of snacks, chips, ect. You have fresh produce/meat and a small selection quasi healthy options.

The truth is we shouldn’t penalize people for trying to eat, and enjoy it a bit.

The concerning part is the individual accountability. When I was a kid (on food stamps) it was pretty taboo. Now it’s like a badge of honor or something. Gotta incentivize people to be more, not buy differently.

I’m pretty here nor there about it, but let’s be real - food stamps or no - the American diet fucking blows
 
I like WICs model better.

Use the assistance to buy the necessities, as outlined on the pre-printed checks themselves, that ensure kids grow into healthy, well-adjusted and successful adults. Use discretionary income for junk foods.
While I agree with this, the WIC systems gums up grocery stores like you wouldn’t believe. Imagine if everyone that used EBT cards joined in.

Obviously EBT should not allow someone to purchase literal garbage but junk food companies lobbied for that privledge long ago and it will never be changed.
 
I mean sometimes a nice snack is the best part of these people's miserable lives as sad as that sounds - being poor is TOUGH

I honestly see both sides to this because yes a lot of that stuff is garbage.. but, same as military meals, sometimes its good to have garbage for morale
 
I understand the reason why it is a bad idea and support the restrictions. However if there was a way to limit it by a program to a certain amount say 5 or 10 persent of the total a month I could support that also.
 
Should junk food and sugary drinks be allowed to be bought with EBT/SNAP?

Basically, unhealthy foods.

The argument against is that people who eat junk processed foods and sugary drinks are guaranteed to be unhealthy and have a much lower lifespan

They'll be on medical assistance, healthy people subsidizing their medical bills

and health people also subsidizing their unhealthy foods
When they pass a law that everyone must have access to fresh produce within walking distance of their home, then sure.

Until then, stuff it up your hole. It's incredible to me how much whining there is about poor people in the WR. Sick fucks, the lot of you.
 
I don't care what the poors eat. It's usually cheaper to eat junk food
Indeed, when you have to choose between more expensive food options and things like over the counter medications, hygiene products, and diapers, what are you going to do?
 
I mean sometimes a nice snack is the best part of these people's miserable lives as sad as that sounds - being poor is TOUGH

I honestly see both sides to this because yes a lot of that stuff is garbage.. but, same as military meals, sometimes its good to have garbage for morale
Re: your second paragraph, please see my two posts above and tell me whether you still see "both sides".
 
I honestly see both sides to this because yes a lot of that stuff is garbage.. but, same as military meals, sometimes its good to have garbage for morale
Yes, pizza night and (as we sometimes called it) "Trailer Park Thursday" (aka a fuck ton of deep fried death) and ice cream, was a great morale boost...but let's not forget the military for the most part has weight, fitness and health standards that don't exist for folks on Govt assistance....and your average E-nothing is quite physically active burning those extra morale calories....as well as the booze, energy drinks and other good stuff..

...now we wanna talk dependants, that's a whole nother animal...
 
Re: your second paragraph, please see my two posts above and tell me whether you still see "both sides".

I'm really not that familiar with EBT/SNAP programs and how they work. If they are using the same funds for medicine/hygeine/child care, then I'd agree its wrong to force them spend more especially if the amount of funds is not changing.

You also made a good point - depending on where you live, getting access to these healthier items may be more difficult and I could see that also causing other issues, like transportation costs, etc.

Sometimes all you have is a Dollar General or wherever depending on where you live. That's not a real "grocery store" but not everywhere has one within a reasonable distance. You could be limited in your food selection whether its your choice or not.

I get it.. there are lots of complications with this.
 
I'm really not that familiar with EBT/SNAP programs and how they work. If they are using the same funds for medicine/hygeine/child care, then I'd agree its wrong to force them spend more especially if the amount of funds is not changing.

You also made a good point - depending on where you live, getting access to these healthier items may be more difficult and I could see that also causing other issues, like transportation costs, etc.

Sometimes all you have is a Dollar General or wherever depending on where you live. That's not a real "grocery store" but not everywhere has one within a reasonable distance. You could be limited in your food selection whether its your choice or not.

I get it.. there are lots of complications with this.
I appreciate your acknowledgement of my reasoning. But I don't think it's complicated so much as the result of deliberate demonization of poor people due to some people's need to have an "other" to pick on and distract from their personal selfishness, and/or an excuse for racism--not saying that applies to you BTW, please see below.

I'm not American, so I can't claim to know much about it either aside from what is posted in the WR. But I pretty much only ever see whining about poor people and not solutions to make things better for them. Food deserts are real, and the poorer nutrition people suffer as a result impair their ability to ascend the economic ladder and escape their circumstances. Schools in poorer areas being underfunded because they're primarily funded by property taxes are real, and disadvantage the kids who live there, and again, as a result their ability to go on to higher education and ascend the economic ladder is impaired.

Miserable shitbags like TS give zero fucks about any of that.
 
Yes, pizza night and (as we sometimes called it) "Trailer Park Thursday" (aka a fuck ton of deep fried death) and ice cream, was a great morale boost...but let's not forget the military for the most part has weight, fitness and health standards that don't exist for folks on Govt assistance....and your average E-nothing is quite physically active burning those extra morale calories....as well as the booze, energy drinks and other good stuff..

...now we wanna talk dependants, that's a whole nother animal...
Ok, talk about them. What do you mean?
 
It would have saved $Trillions in just Insulin and doctor costs alone if it had been done a generation ago.
 
I'm really not that familiar with EBT/SNAP programs and how they work. If they are using the same funds for medicine/hygeine/child care, then I'd agree its wrong to force them spend more especially if the amount of funds is not changing.

You also made a good point - depending on where you live, getting access to these healthier items may be more difficult and I could see that also causing other issues, like transportation costs, etc.

Sometimes all you have is a Dollar General or wherever depending on where you live. That's not a real "grocery store" but not everywhere has one within a reasonable distance. You could be limited in your food selection whether its your choice or not.

I get it.. there are lots of complications with this.

I appreciate your acknowledgement of my reasoning. But I don't think it's complicated so much as the result of deliberate demonization of poor people due to some people's need to have an "other" to pick on and distract from their personal selfishness, and/or an excuse for racism--not saying that applies to you BTW, please see below.

I'm not American, so I can't claim to know much about it either aside from what is posted in the WR. But I pretty much only ever see whining about poor people and not solutions to make things better for them. Food deserts are real, and the poorer nutrition people suffer as a result impair their ability to ascend the economic ladder and escape their circumstances. Schools in poorer areas being underfunded because they're primarily funded by property taxes are real, and disadvantage the kids who live there, and again, as a result their ability to go on to higher education and ascend the economic ladder is impaired.

Miserable shitbags like TS give zero fucks about any of that.
Correction to the above,

A quick google shows you cannot use EBT for medicine.

But of course, that leaves one wondering where money for that might come from.

  • Cleaning supplies – Common household cleaning supplies, including bleach, detergents, soap, and paper products, are not eligible for purchase with EBT food stamps as they are not seen as nutritionally essential.
  • Personal care items – Cosmetics, toiletries, and hygiene products, such as shampoo, toothpaste, and deodorant, are ineligible for purchase with EBT food stamps as they are seen as non-essential goods.
In a way, this is even worse:

"Personal hygiene items​



One of the limitations of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) or commonly known as EBT food stamps is that it cannot be used to purchase personal hygiene items, such as soap, shampoo, and toothpaste. These items are considered non-food products and are not covered by the program.

  • Soap: EBT food stamps cannot be used to buy soap, including body wash and hand soap. Soap is considered a hygiene item and is not considered a food item.
  • Shampoo: Shampoo is also a personal hygiene item and is not covered by the EBT food stamp program.
  • Toothpaste: Toothpaste is another item that cannot be purchased with EBT food stamps. It is considered a hygiene item and not a food item, even though it is used for oral hygiene.
It is essential to note that while EBT food stamps are intended to provide help with purchasing food, certain non-food items are not covered. Personal hygiene items, household products, vitamins, and medicines cannot be purchased with SNAP benefits.

However, some states have approved implementing government programs that provide low-income families with assistance in purchasing these non-food items. These programs, including the Family Independence Initiative (FII) and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), provide cash assistance to purchase non-food items, including personal hygiene items."

A search for "how do snap recipients pay for things that are not covered" basically said you better hope there are local charities that will help. Meanwhile, people ITT complain, OMG they're buying junk food with OUR money!!!!
 
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