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hey everyone my name is Jessica and I'm new to sherdog.

I was wondering if anyone ever trained/know/heard anything about Shaolin Kung Fu Training Center in NYC. I scheduled a class for Thursday and I finished reading some reviews about it but about the children I want to hear something about the adults. I saw a performance from them that looked great, I just really would like to hear some reviews does anyone have anything they can share with me? thanks in advance :).
 
JessPk said:
hey everyone my name is Jessica and I'm new to sherdog.

I was wondering if anyone ever trained/know/heard anything about Shaolin Kung Fu Training Center in NYC. I scheduled a class for Thursday and I finished reading some reviews about it but about the children I want to hear something about the adults. I saw a performance from them that looked great, I just really would like to hear some reviews does anyone have anything they can share with me? thanks in advance :).
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It depends on what you want out of it.

I wasted 6 months of my life doing Shaolin Kung fu.

If you want to get it shape, become flexible, and learn glorified dance routines, you may like it.

I wanted to learn how to fight on a competitive level, and it did nothing for me.

I often think about the "black belts" that I trained with - that were doing the same drills as me - and how they couldn't last 3 rounds of Muay Thai. Sad.
 
you could always tell people you trained in kung fu for intimidation purposes. but since everyone is on this mma kick, it wouldn't work anyway. if you just want to get in shape and don't really care about fighting it shouldn't matter anyway.
 
conceptcoop said:
It depends on what you want out of it.

I wasted 6 months of my life doing Shaolin Kung fu.

If you want to get it shape, become flexible, and learn glorified dance routines, you may like it.

I wanted to learn how to fight on a competitive level, and it did nothing for me.

I often think about the "black belts" that I trained with - that were doing the same drills as me - and how they couldn't last 3 rounds of Muay Thai. Sad.
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lol same here, i think of my old instructors in other martial arts and how they would get smashed by muay thai students...
 
conceptcoop said:
It depends on what you want out of it.

I wasted 6 months of my life doing Shaolin Kung fu.

If you want to get it shape, become flexible, and learn glorified dance routines, you may like it.

I wanted to learn how to fight on a competitive level, and it did nothing for me.

I often think about the "black belts" that I trained with - that were doing the same drills as me - and how they couldn't last 3 rounds of Muay Thai. Sad.
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Sorry to hear about your negative experience but like the other guy said Shaolin doesn't have belts, so where you where training obviously wasn't genuine Shaolin.

I have trained at the Shaolin School in London and they have produced lots of good fighters, several National San Shou champions and people who have fought in European and World championships. Also students from Shaolin London have fought in Muay Thai competitions and have done well in them.

The main thing to find out is what the teaches from New York specialised in when they were at the Shaolin temple. Shaolin Gong fu is a complete system and there's a lot more to it than just fighting. Shaolin disciples can specialise in forms, weapons or the more spiritual meditative side of the art. Only very few Shaolin disciples specialise in fighting techniques (the ones who's personality and character are best suited to it).

The two disciples who set up the school in London both specialised in fighting techniques so the school has produces good fighters.

So it depends on what you want to get and what the teachers specialised in.

One thing about learning fighting from Shaolin is the initial learning curve is a bit slower than it would be at a Muay Thai or Boxing gym as you will be expected to learn some basic forms and develope good flexibility before you learn practical fighting techniques, where as with a boxing or mt gym you'lll be doing fighting techniques from day one.

I don't expect Shaolin to get much love on here as Chinese martial arts have a bad reputation in the fighting world, but my experience of training with them in London has been very positive.

WAR SHAOLIN!!!!
 
If you're not wishing to learn to actually fight then I say go ahead, I did Kung Fu for a year or so a long time ago - and while it's far from practical in a fight situation, it does look spectacular, is great for overall fitness and health and all your mates will think you're like Jackie Chan!!!

Oh and, welcome to the forum ;)
 
i like shaolin, my wife prefers ballet, they have strong similarities i guess.
 
Gavin Smith said:
Sorry to hear about your negative experience but like the other guy said Shaolin doesn't have belts, so where you where training obviously wasn't genuine Shaolin.

I have trained at the Shaolin School in London and they have produced lots of good fighters, several National San Shou champions and people who have fought in European and World championships. Also students from Shaolin London have fought in Muay Thai competitions and have done well in them.

The main thing to find out is what the teaches from New York specialised in when they were at the Shaolin temple. Shaolin Gong fu is a complete system and there's a lot more to it than just fighting. Shaolin disciples can specialise in forms, weapons or the more spiritual meditative side of the art. Only very few Shaolin disciples specialise in fighting techniques (the ones who's personality and character are best suited to it).

The two disciples who set up the school in London both specialised in fighting techniques so the school has produces good fighters.

So it depends on what you want to get and what the teachers specialised in.

One thing about learning fighting from Shaolin is the initial learning curve is a bit slower than it would be at a Muay Thai or Boxing gym as you will be expected to learn some basic forms and develope good flexibility before you learn practical fighting techniques, where as with a boxing or mt gym you'lll be doing fighting techniques from day one.

I don't expect Shaolin to get much love on here as Chinese martial arts have a bad reputation in the fighting world, but my experience of training with them in London has been very positive.

WAR SHAOLIN!!!!
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It is very possible that the school I went to was not an authentic shaolin school. I would bet on that actually. But how many "authentic" schools are there in the US? Chances are, she is about to join a school just like the one I went to.

Also, kung fu does not have a very good track record of displaying itself as a rational form of fighting in the US, more specifically, MMA.

I have heard the excuses and don't buy them. I have to see it to believe it.
 
conceptcoop said:
It is very possible that the school I went to was not an authentic shaolin school. I would bet on that actually. But how many "authentic" schools are there in the US? Chances are, she is about to join a school just like the one I went to.

Also, kung fu does not have a very good track record of displaying itself as a rational form of fighting in the US, more specifically, MMA.

I have heard the excuses and don't buy them. I have to see it to believe it.
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Cool Bro

I think there is actuallly a genuine shaolin disciple who teaches in NY, not sure if that's the one the ts is going to and not sure if they produce fighters (fighters and fighting are a small part of shaolin but a large part of MT)

I also don't even know if the ts wanted to learn fighting or just has a general interest in chinese martial arts.

Like I said I trained with Shaolin in London and my experience has been good, I've had some fights including Muay Thai and done ok (not saying I'm the greatest but I can hold my own). Other students from shaolin temple uk have done very well in San Shou and Muay Thai competitions.

This is me, like I said I'm not the greatest but I can hold my own in a fight
YouTube - Gavin 72kg

YouTube - ZT Amatuer 10-02-08. Anthony Lesley 5sec KO. London Shoot

Whilst I agree that chinease martial arts generally haven't done well in fighting due to a lack of focus on fighting techniques and also due to there being a lot of Mc Dojos I hope that people will realise there are exceptions to the rule.
 
Ive had the oppurtunity to train with a Shaolin Kung Fu expert, he was a very polite kid. Good atttitude.

But his opinions on Kung Fu were a little bit glorified in my book. But he was a skilled martial artist for the most part, the basics atleast.
 
Gavin Smith said:
Cool Bro

I think there is actuallly a genuine shaolin disciple who teaches in NY, not sure if that's the one the ts is going to and not sure if they produce fighters (fighters and fighting are a small part of shaolin but a large part of MT)

I also don't even know if the ts wanted to learn fighting or just has a general interest in chinese martial arts.

Like I said I trained with Shaolin in London and my experience has been good, I've had some fights including Muay Thai and done ok (not saying I'm the greatest but I can hold my own). Other students from shaolin temple uk have done very well in San Shou and Muay Thai competitions.

This is me, like I said I'm not the greatest but I can hold my own in a fight
YouTube - Gavin 72kg

YouTube - ZT Amatuer 10-02-08. Anthony Lesley 5sec KO. London Shoot

Whilst I agree that chinease martial arts generally haven't done well in fighting due to a lack of focus on fighting techniques and also due to there being a lot of Mc Dojos I hope that people will realise there are exceptions to the rule.
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nice right hand man:icon_chee

you made good points

for people looking to do shoalin in usa do be wary of shaolin do schools
they market themselves as shaolin but really arent. they wear belts and gi's and preaach that one of the grandmasters of shaolin was a dog man. really what shaolin do teaches is a sort of indonesian karate that lacks the hard training and sparring of karate, and the foot work and weapons of Indonesian tma's.

on the effectivness side of the kug fu argument
there are actually a good number of succesful competitors in mma that have kung fu backrounds i believe most of them train in sanda but a few not shaolin as well (check aow for a good number of them). as far as kickboxing goes sanda has alot of fierce competitors and can hold there own with the thais (atleast under sanda rules).
also check the few sanda practitioners in k-1 for effectiveness
 
Traditional Chinese lei tai (san da) matches were tests of strength, power, and manhood.

Who was the bigger man. Who was tougher. Who is the better FIGHTER.

Now-a-days, it is replaced with "pure technique trying to defeat strength." This does not work. It is stupid, no, it is FUCKING RETARDED. That is why stuffs like Wing Chun is not working, their current philosophy is using pure technique to win a confrontation.

The masculine aspect of Chinese martial art is degenerated. And it is sad to see. It is reduced to a womanish art and just that, ARTFORM. Teaching like an artform will produce an artist, not a fighter.

Chinese martial art need the traditional Lei Tai style back and also keep promoting San Da. San Da is for Chinese boxing styles in the ring, what Muay Thai is for traditional Siamese boxing.
 
Gavin Smith said:
Cool Bro

I think there is actuallly a genuine shaolin disciple who teaches in NY, not sure if that's the one the ts is going to and not sure if they produce fighters (fighters and fighting are a small part of shaolin but a large part of MT)

I also don't even know if the ts wanted to learn fighting or just has a general interest in chinese martial arts.

Like I said I trained with Shaolin in London and my experience has been good, I've had some fights including Muay Thai and done ok (not saying I'm the greatest but I can hold my own). Other students from shaolin temple uk have done very well in San Shou and Muay Thai competitions.

This is me, like I said I'm not the greatest but I can hold my own in a fight
YouTube - Gavin 72kg

YouTube - ZT Amatuer 10-02-08. Anthony Lesley 5sec KO. London Shoot

Whilst I agree that chinease martial arts generally haven't done well in fighting due to a lack of focus on fighting techniques and also due to there being a lot of Mc Dojos I hope that people will realise there are exceptions to the rule.
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As another person that has practice in an effective kung-fu school, I think you are wrong atleast as far as the North America goes. We have way more McKwon's than solid Kung-fu fighting schools.
 
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