roundhouse is more powerful than a baseball swing?

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I remember in the early days of MMA I was watching some fights in I think Pancrase, and one of the commentators was talking about how powerful leg kicks are.

And he said that they did a test on some japanese TV show where they had one of those machines that measures force, and they had a baseball player hit it with a bat and then they had the fighter kick it, and the machine said the kick was more powerful than the baseball swing.

I was skeptical about it back then, but I couldn't really verify it. But now we're in the internet era and I was thinking if proof is out there I should be able to find it.

But I'm scouring the interwebz looking for video proof of this claim and I can't find it. Part of the problem though is that when searching, I come up with a bunch of videos of muay thai guys breaking bats with their shins.

So have any of you ever seen proof of this claim? And if not, do you believe that a pro fighter has a harder kick than a pro baseball player's swing?
 
Well the average human leg is way heavier than a baseball bat so it makes sense. The swing of the bat is probably a lot faster though.
 
I've ate full leg kicks from guys who kick like horses, I'd never let anyone hit me with a bat as hard as they could.
 
Vhagar said:
I've ate full leg kicks from guys who kick like horses, I'd never let anyone hit me with a bat as hard as they could.
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I'll second that.

You turn your hips over much the same way when you properly swing a bat. Plus the bat has the longer reach and, thus, more leverage, right?
 
Getting hit in the ribs by a wooden bat swung by a pro would absolutely cause damage. Probably more likely than a kick from a pro. I have no evidence to support this though.
 
Pretty sure spinkicks are more powerful than roundhouses, though it might vary.
 
Fedorgasm said:
I remember in the early days of MMA I was watching some fights in I think Pancrase, and one of the commentators was talking about how powerful leg kicks are.

And he said that they did a test on some japanese TV show where they had one of those machines that measures force, and they had a baseball player hit it with a bat and then they had the fighter kick it, and the machine said the kick was more powerful than the baseball swing.

I was skeptical about it back then, but I couldn't really verify it. But now we're in the internet era and I was thinking if proof is out there I should be able to find it.

But I'm scouring the interwebz looking for video proof of this claim and I can't find it. Part of the problem though is that when searching, I come up with a bunch of videos of muay thai guys breaking bats with their shins.

So have any of you ever seen proof of this claim? And if not, do you believe that a pro fighter has a harder kick than a pro baseball player's swing?
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It sounds like bullshit. Both legs are braced on a baseball swing while you are balanced on one leg with a kick. IMO, you can put more rotation into a baseball swing than a round kick.
 
Bats don't have nerves and aren't attached to brains that interpret pain from those nerves.

Kicks might have the potential to be as hard as a bat swing, but in the zpoc do you really want to go around swinging your leg into the zombies or would you rather have a dense inanimate object that in terms of practical force ends up having an equal impact? : D
 
Bren Foster generated a ton of force with his roundhouse -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnu94B6Edrs

I guess no baseball pro would come close to that, though Foster is clearly a freak of nature in this respect.
 
I'm pretty sure if someone is getting hit with full force baseball swings, the damage would be very bad. Whatever part of the body is hit would be fractured and if it's the head, the damage is probably lethal a decent amount of the time.

But then again, the same could be true for kicks and it's just that full force kicks are rarely thrown and rarely connect.
 
RafailNadull said:
I'm pretty sure if someone is getting hit with full force baseball swings, the damage would be very bad. Whatever part of the body is hit would be fractured and if it's the head, the damage is probably lethal a decent amount of the time.

But then again, the same could be true for kicks and it's just that full force kicks are rarely thrown and rarely connect.
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Hwang Jang Lee killed several attackers in the war with kicks to the solar plexus. One of them being a filipino knife expert. Hwang is 9th dan and a Taekwon-Do army instructor. This was the days before the olympic bullshit which has tarnished most of TKDs reputation.
 
spacetime said:
Hwang Jang Lee killed several attackers in the war with kicks to the solar plexus. One of them being a filipino knife expert. Hwang is 9th dan and a Taekwon-Do army instructor. This was the days before the olympic bullshit which has tarnished most of TKDs reputation.
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Haha, well I'm gonna need to see some links for this.
 
insomniacl said:
Says he kicked the guy in the head and he died. Didn't hear anything about multiple people or solar plexus.
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He killed a knife expert in self defence (during what I presume was a TKD demonstration during war)with a kick to the solar plexus, according to his long time student Roy Horan. Horan retells it on the Game of death 2 commentary. Whang also kicked a soldier in the head who came up behind him with a shotgun. Perhaps this is the person they referred to in the interview.
 
spacetime said:
He killed a knife expert in self defence (during what I presume was a TKD demonstration during war)with a kick to the solar plexus, according to his long time student Roy Horan. Horan retells it on the Game of death 2 commentary. Whang also kicked a soldier in the head who came up behind him with a shotgun. Perhaps this is the person they referred to in the interview.
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Well alright then, a demo and a self defense war situation is much different than "several attackers in the war with kicks to the solar plexus". These are pretty anecdotal stories as well. Not that they're not believable, but still stories.
 
insomniacl said:
Well alright then, a demo and a self defense war situation is much different than "several attackers in the war with kicks to the solar plexus". These are pretty anecdotal stories as well. Not that they're not believable, but still stories.
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The actual story is: Hwang giving Taekwon-do demonstrations, when the knife man in the audience attempted to kill him and also threatened the audience with the knife.

This was to prove TKD was bullshit against someone really good with a knife. He knew how to pick em......

Do you know what several means? More than one. It all took place during war time. Anyway, believe it you like.
 
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