Roberto Duran: Secret Wing Chun Man

[mozfonky]

It's not really Wing chun but I see some real similarities. I always thought Chi Sao was useless and still think it is the way it's taught but what Duran does here is gorgeous, even at 70.

 

[Ancient Warrior]

Well, one of the most important aspect of martial arts (and Bruce Lee’s philosophy) is to use what works. Doing it with gloves on is something special.

On a side note, he looks like he’s in pretty good shape now. I remember he had a spare tire around his midsection for years.

 

[mozfonky]

Well, one of the most important aspect of martial arts (and Bruce Lee’s philosophy) is to use what works. Doing it with gloves on is something special.

On a side note, he looks like he’s in pretty good shape now. I remember he had a spare tire around his midsection for years.

Ya, he had gastric bypass a few years ago said he should done it when he was fighting.

 

[aries]

Duran was a master at infighting. It is really a lost art these days. I'm not surprised it has similarities with Wing Chun. Both are short-range systems and Wing Chun was practical once too.

 

[TheMaster]

It's not really Wing chun but I see some real similarities. I always thought Chi Sao was useless and still think it is the way it's taught but what Duran does here is gorgeous, even at 70.

Yes, people cannot dismiss these kinds of infighting skills.
WC can offer a lot for boxers and especially if they want to adapt it for MMA.
Of course WC guys have not commonly applied it in actual fighting like Duran but it is obvious that if they spar and fight more we will see it eventually and its a very useful skill for any fighter to have.



Tactile sensitivity and reflexes, paired with combinations, parries and counters.

Regarding differences, Duran's stance is leaning in. This works for boxing but if you add the possibility of head butts and elbow strikes the stance will need to be more upright so we come back to more the neutral WC stance.

There is definitely something WC guys can learn from watching Duran's fights and likewise something alot of boxers can learn by integrating chi sau skills especially if they have an in-fighting style.

 

[mozfonky]

Duran was a master at infighting. It is really a lost art these days. I'm not surprised it has similarities with Wing Chun. Both are short-range systems and Wing Chun was practical once too.

well, what surprises me is that anything resembling chi sao is found in the boxing ring, so far as I know, I rarely see any sort of what could be called "trapping" or chi sao. However, a lot of the moves like Larry Holmes' elbow up to block an overhand right is a wing chun move but without a name, he just did it instinctively.

 

[mozfonky]

Yes, people cannot dismiss these kinds of infighting skills.
WC can offer a lot for boxers and especially if they want to adapt it for MMA.
Of course WC guys have not commonly applied it in actual fighting like Duran but it is obvious that if they spar and fight more we will see it eventually and its a very useful skill for any fighter to have.



Tactile sensitivity and reflexes, paired with combinations, parries and counters.

Regarding differences, Duran's stance is leaning in. This works for boxing but if you add the possibility of head butts and elbow strikes the stance will need to be more upright so we come back to more the neutral WC stance.

There is definitely something WC guys can learn from watching Duran's fights and likewise something alot of boxers can learn by integrating chi sau skills especially if they have an in-fighting style.

I'm surprised because Wing Chun/Jun Fan was my first asian style and I never saw the point of a lot of the stuff so seeing it used is interesting. I just always though, why play that game, just come in and out, we've seen the wing chun "masters" take some fearsome beatings in recent years because they are lost in theory.

 

[deucesarewild]

Duran was a master at infighting. It is really a lost art these days. I'm not surprised it has similarities with Wing Chun. Both are short-range systems and Wing Chun was practical once too.

It was a lost art when he was doing it, nevermind today. He had guys like Arcel to train him who came from the age where guys fought on the inside much more and knew how to manipulate opponent's limbs.