Ive seen them and they are alright expecialy if you are trying to make a change from MT to MMA. but like most stand up dvd's, I think your money would be better spent paying for lessons, I learn more in a week in the gym than Ive ever learned from a dvd, But..... Duke Rufus has what I would call a better colection of dvd's that someone on here got me hip to, best thing you can do is get on youtube and watch free clips from both before making your selection.