Plans for a new US super tank with an electrothermal chemical gun

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The Army cancelled a future Ground Combat Vehicle but, some of the innovations, technologies and weapons systems may get into a new tank design. Design specs, engineering, weapons and other innovations envisioned for the GCV are now being analyzed for the new tank. In particular, the new tank may use an emerging 30mm cannon weapon planned for the GCV – the ATK-built XM813. XM813 is computer-controlled and electronically driven weapon can fire up to 200 rounds per minute, uses a dual-recoil firing system and a semi-closed bolt firing mode. The new tank will emerge after the Army first fields its M1A2 SEP v4 upgraded Abrams tank in the 2020s

The Army’s MCS program developed and test-fired a super lightweight 120mm cannon, called the XM360, able to fire existing and emerging next-generation tank rounds. The lightweight weapon being developed for the MCS was two-tons, roughly one-half the weight of the existing Abrams 120mm cannon. The XM360 used electrothermal chemical technology.


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Electrothermal-chemical (ETC) technology is an attempt to increase accuracy and muzzle energy of future tank, artillery, and close-in weapon system guns by improving the predictability and rate of expansion of propellants inside the barrel.

Several countries have already determined that ETC technology is viable for the future and have funded indigenous projects considerably. These include the United States, Germany and the United Kingdom, amongst others. The United States' XM360 (cancelled in 2009) was reportedly based on the XM291 and may include ETC technology, or portions of ETC technology. Tests of this gun have been performed using "precision ignition" technology, which may refer to ETC ignition.

The XM-291 is the best existing example of a working electrothermal-chemical gun. It was an alternate technology to the heavier caliber 140 mm gun by using the dual-caliber approach. It uses a breech that is large enough to accept 140 mm ammunition and be mounted with both a 120 mm barrel and a 135 mm or 140 mm barrel. The XM-291 also mounts a larger gun tube and a larger ignition chamber than the existing M256 L/44 main gun.

Through the application of electrothermal-chemical technology the XM-291 has been able to achieve muzzle energy outputs that equate that to a low-level 140 mm gun, while achieving muzzle velocities greater than those of the larger 140 mm gun. Although the XM-291 does not mean that ETC technology is viable it does offer an example that it is possible.






http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/03/plans-for-new-us-super-tank-with.html


Look's like Rail guns will be the Standard for american tanks and US IFV. Funny, the russian tank suddenly looks more useless *giggles*
 
the more tech the more can and will gowrong.

So the tank version of the F35, cool see you operational in 2070.


You do know we've had railguns around since 2009 right? We know how to make them, they're already being mounted on ships.



and if you actually read anything you'd see the SEPv4 is gonna be getting this gun in 2020.


Also comparing Aircraft development to tank development is stupid
 
I know nothing about this stuff, and have difficulty deciphering any of it on account of this being entirely outside my wheelhouse. But railguns are cool as fuck; put em on the tanks, muthafuckas!
Rail gun tanks!
 
I know nothing about this stuff, and have difficulty deciphering any of it on account of this being entirely outside my wheelhouse. But railguns are cool as fuck; put em on the tanks, muthafuckas!
Rail gun tanks!


Let put this way the cost of ammunition will go down a lot of. and you're shooting a projectile at speeds over 5000mph that would split a tank in half
 
Let put this way the cost of ammunition will go down a lot of. and you're shooting a projectile at speeds over 5000mph that would split a tank in half
Jesus
This might sound like a stupid question, and maybe it is one, but what kind of, uh, recoil does something like that have? More or less than what it is replacing?
 
Jesus
This might sound like a stupid question, and maybe it is one, but what kind of, uh, recoil does something like that have? More or less than what it is replacing?



recoil may happen in ways you wouldn't normally expect, its hard to explain. It more reliable and effective especially when it comes to ammo coast . the recoil is different
then a normal firearm. i think they have a way of dispersing it differently, now it will be a bit stranger when they start shrinking to maybe a sniper rifle or what we'd call a Gauss rifle
 
recoil may happen in ways you wouldn't normally expect, its hard to explain. It more reliable and effective especially when it comes to ammo coast . the recoil is different
then a normal firearm. i think they have a way of dispersing it differently, now it will be a bit stranger when they start shrinking to maybe a sniper rifle or what we'd call a Gauss rifle
Strange and interesting
 
You do know we've had railguns around since 2009 right? We know how to make them, they're already being mounted on ships.



and if you actually read anything you'd see the SEPv4 is gonna be getting this gun in 2020.


Also comparing Aircraft development to tank development is stupid


Well they both Fly right?
 
I've built a small railgun once, no idea what an electrothermal gun is, too tired to google, waiting for explanation.

The problem with railguns is power supply and barrel/rail erosion due to the heat, velocity and so on. Ships can use railguns because they have huge power plants, not sure how a tank can do it.
Rail erosion has probably been figured out by the big defense companies, probably using some kind of low attrition sabot and better rail materials.
 
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http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/03/plans-for-new-us-super-tank-with.html


Look's like Rail guns will be the Standard for american tanks and US IFV. Funny, the russian tank suddenly looks more useless *giggles*




With the usage and advancement of aircraft in war, aren't tanks becoming sort of obsolete?


I mean, what's the point of this particular tank with a gun like this? Wouldn't it just be easier to use aircraft or missles? Unless the tank is going back to being strictly infantry support like the concept of the Sherman's.
 
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discharge my payload
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launch the Polaris
the end doesn't scare us
when will this cease
the warheads will all Rust in Peace.
 
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