Opinion Pitbulls vs Firearms

[deviake]

Sincere question: Does anyone who thinks pitbulls should be banned think guns should be legal? If so, what is the reasoning?

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

Neither should be banned. Don't be a pussy

 

[WklySportsMemes]

There are plenty of people in the "every dog i don't like is pIT bUlL" threads who support 2A gun rights to the fullest but support things even more extreme than BSL.

The last tard I argued with blamed it on guns being " inanimate objects and not being able to go off by themselves. "

Edit*
See the tard below for text book example vvvvvvv

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Well a gun can't get up from a table and chase you down the street all alone and kill you, so obviously it's a different thing. those dogs are useless to society and present only risks.

 

[Osculater]

Only if there were more good pitbulls with guns

 

[deviake]

Well a gun can't get up from a table and chase you down the street all alone and kill you, so obviously it's a different thing. those dogs are useless to society and present only risks.

Same argument applies to explosives

 

[650lb Sumo]

Only a good guy with a pitbull stops a bad guy with a pitbull.

 

[Osculater]

Same argument applies to explosives

Athletic and explosive?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Same argument applies to explosives

Yeah and it would still work.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I'm a former pitbull owner and believe they should be banned... from cities. Every major metropolitan area should pass laws banning their ownership for all residents. If pitbull owners want to keep owning their pitbulls moving out into the country is a simple process.

I love the breed, however the statistics of violence and deaths every year are undeniable.

The comparison between pitbulls and guns are laughable because obviously owners are in complete control of their firearms.
A gun has never jumped out of the yard and shot six kids leaving them permanently disfigured or dead.

 

[deviake]

I'm a former pitbull owner and believe they should be banned... from cities. Every major metropolitan area should pass laws banning their ownership for all residents. If pitbull owners want to keep owning their pitbulls moving out into the country is a simple process.

I love the breed, however the statistics of violence and deaths every year are undeniable.

The comparison between pitbulls and guns are laughable because obviously owners are in complete control of their firearms.
A gun has never jumped out of the yard and shot six kids leaving them permanently disfigured or dead.

Wouldn't the "responsible owner" argument apply to both?

Yeah and it would still work.

How large/much explosives should people be able to have?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

How large/much explosives should people be able to have?

No idea. it's still silly to compare explosives or weapons to dogs though.
it's a clear category error. neither explosives or weapons possess the ability to move about on their own and chase people down and kill them.
maybe you can find something else so compare pitbulls with, cause currently it's a stupid comparison.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Wouldn't the "responsible owner" argument apply to both?

No.
It wouldn't.

And there is no constitutional amendment to own a pitbull.

 

[deviake]

No idea. it's still silly to compare explosives or weapons to dogs though.
it's a clear category error. neither explosives or weapons possess the ability to move about on their own and chase people down and kill them.
maybe you can find something else so compare pitbulls with, cause currently it's a stupid comparison.

They can't but people use them for that purpose regardless so unless we're having a philosophical discussion the reality of how they're used matters more.

No.
It wouldn't.

And there is no constitutional amendment to own a pitbull.

There isn't, true. But statistically I'd be shocked if far more kids weren't killed with firearms than by pitbulls.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

There isn't, true. But statistically I'd be shocked if far more kids weren't killed with firearms than by pitbulls.

In America, there isn't 400+ million pitbulls.

And if you think the statistics of gun deaths are surprising, look up knife deaths.
Should we ban grandma's butterknives?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

They can't but people use them for that purpose regardless so unless we're having a philosophical discussion the reality of how they're used matters more.

No it doesn't. Actual philosophical discussions are about finding the differentia specifica between things, and this is how legislation is written, taking into consideration difference, not sameness. it's the reason why nobody sane thinks we should ban all knives because knives can also kill people. this is gradeschool level debate tactics that you're doing, and it's making you look like a moron.

i can't believe i have to explain shit like that to people over the age of 12.

 

[deviake]

In America, there isn't 400+ million pitbulls.

And if you think the statistics of gun deaths are surprising, look up knife deaths.
Should we ban grandma's butterknives?

At a glance knife deaths are way lower than gun

No it doesn't. Actual philosophical discussions are about finding the differentia specifica between things, and this is how legislation is written, taking into consideration difference, not sameness. it's the reason why nobody sane thinks we should ban all knives because knives can also kill people. this is gradeschool level debate tactics that you're doing, and it's making you look like a moron.

i can't believe i have to explain shit like that to people over the age of 12.

I'm not trying to be tricky nor sophisticated, just interrogating how someone arrives at the conclusion that pitbulls should be outlawed but not guns, the common thread being threat level. Guns are banned in many countries, dunno about pitbulls, I haven't taken a dog in this fight, pardon the pun. You're acting like a antagonistic, emotional little bitch over basic questions. It's like dealing with an edgy teenager

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I'm not trying to be tricky nor sophisticated, just interrogating how someone arrives at the conclusion that pitbulls should be outlawed but not guns, the common thread being threat level. Guns are banned in many countries, dunno about pitbulls, I haven't taken a dog in this fight, pardon the pun.

it's been explained to you already.

You're acting like a antagonistic, emotional little bitch over basic questions. It's like dealing with an edgy teenager

you're the one not understanding basic things. so the teenager thing is projection.

 

[deviake]

it's been explained to you already.

you're the one not understanding basic things. so the teenager thing is projection.

You're clever but not as smart as you think you are. And yes, I understood what you're clumsily said but threat level also does play a part, not the ONLY part, obviously. You're a dickish little teen and you don't talk like this in real life

 

[Fox by the Sea]

You're clever

I know

but not as smart as you think you are.

i actually am

And yes, I understood what you're clumsily said but threat level also does play a part, not the ONLY part, obviously.

What a confused phrase.

You're a dickish little teen

I wish i was a teen again

and you don't talk like this in real life

that's exactly how i talk in real life. i'm one of those that is an asshole everywhere, when confronted with silliness.