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Well, is this it? I think it could backfire. Discuss
WASHINGTON — Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced on Tuesday that the House would begin a formal impeachment inquiry of President Trump, saying that he had betrayed his oath of office and the nation’s security in seeking to enlist a foreign power for his own political gain.

“The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the Constitution,” she said after emerging from a meeting of House Democrats in the basement of the Capitol. Mr. Trump, she said, “must be held accountable — no one is above the law.”

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Nancy Pelosi’s Statement on Impeachment: ‘The President Must Be Held Accountable’
Sept. 24, 2019

The announcement was a stunning development that unfolded after months of caution by House Democrats, who have been divided over using the ultimate remedy to address what they have called flagrant misconduct by the president. It ushered in the beginning of a remarkable new chapter in American political life, with the potential to cleave an already divided nation, reshape Mr. Trump’s presidency and the country’s politics, and create heavy risks both for him and for the Democrats who have decided to weigh his removal. And it could result in Mr. Trump becoming only the third president in modern history to be impeached, after Bill Clinton and Richard M. Nixon, who resigned in the middle of the process.

In this case, with an avalanche of Democrats — including many who had resisted the move — now demanding it, Ms. Pelosi said that Mr. Trump’s reported actions, and his administration’s refusal to share details about the matter with Congress, have left the House no alternative outside of impeachment.

At issue are allegations that Mr. Trump pressured the president of Ukraine to open a corruption investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., a leading contender for the Democratic presidential nomination, and his son. The conversation is said to be part of a whistle-blower complaint that the Trump administration has withheld from Congress.

Mr. Trump said on Tuesday that he would authorize the release of a transcript of the conversation, practically daring Democrats to try to find an impeachable offense in a conversation that he has called “perfect.” But Democrats, after months of holding back, demanded the full whistle-blower complaint, even as they pushed toward an expansive impeachment inquiry that could encompass unrelated charges.

“The actions of the Trump presidency revealed dishonorable facts of the president’s betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security and betrayal of the integrity of our elections,” Ms. Pelosi said.


The president, in New York for several days of international diplomacy at the United Nations, issued a defiant response on Twitter, in a series of fuming posts that culminated with a simple phrase: “PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!”

“Such an important day at the United Nations, so much work and so much success, and the Democrats purposely had to ruin and demean it with more breaking news Witch Hunt garbage,” Mr. Trump wrote. “So bad for our Country!

Ms. Pelosi said she had directed the chairmen of the six committees that have been investigating Mr. Trump to “proceed under that umbrella of impeachment inquiry.” In a closed-door meeting earlier in the day, she said the panels would put together their best cases on potentially impeachable offenses by the president and send them to the Judiciary Committee, according to two officials familiar with the conversation. That could potentially lay the groundwork for articles of impeachment based on the findings.


The decision to begin a formal impeachment inquiry does not necessarily mean that the House will ultimately vote to charge Mr. Trump with high crimes and misdemeanors — much less that the Republican-controlled Senate will vote to remove him. But Ms. Pelosi and her leadership would not initiate the process unless they were prepared to reach that outcome.

Ms. Pelosi met privately on Tuesday with the leaders of the six key committees involved in investigations of Mr. Trump, and later huddled with the full Democratic caucus. Her announcement came amid a groundswell in favor of impeachment among Democrats that has intensified since late last week, with lawmakers from every corner of her caucus lining up in favor of using the House’s unique power to charge Mr. Trump if the allegations are proved true, or if his administration continues to stonewall attempts by Congress to investigate them.


The House Judiciary Committee has been conducting its own impeachment investigation focused on the findings of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, as well as allegations that Mr. Trump may be illegally profiting from spending by state and foreign governments and other matters. But that inquiry has never gotten the imprimatur of a full House vote or the full rhetorical backing of the speaker, as Democrats remained divided about the wisdom and political implications of impeaching a president without broader public support.

Now, after the revelation of a conversations between Mr. Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in which Mr. Trump pressed the foreign leader to investigate the Bidens, a cascading flood of Democrats has come out in favor of a formal impeachment proceeding.

The shift in outlook among Democratic lawmakers has been rapid, and could yet still turn away from impeachment if exculpatory evidence comes to light. The developments that have turned the tide began less that two weeks ago, when Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the Intelligence Committee chairman, first revealed the existence of a secret whistle-blower complaint that the intelligence community’s internal watchdog had deemed “urgent” and credible but that the Trump administration had refused to share with Congress.

Democrats have given Joseph Maguire, the acting director of national intelligence, until Thursday to turn over the whistle-blower complaint or risk reprisal. And they have threatened to subpoena the Trump administration for a copy of the transcript of the president’s call with Mr. Zelensky and other relevant documents after Thursday if they are not shared voluntarily.

There were also indications the whistle-blower might not wait around for the complaint to be disclosed. Democrats said on Tuesday that a lawyer for the whistle-blower had informed the committee his client wanted to speak with the House and Senate intelligence panels, and had requested directions from the office of the director of national intelligence on how to do so.

Though it has attracted much less fanfare, the Senate Intelligence Committee intends to meet privately with the inspector general and Mr. Maguire this week to discuss the whistle-blower complaint.

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Jonathan Martin contributed reporting from Los Angeles.

Nicholas Fandos is a reporter in the Washington bureau covering Congress. @npfandos

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If there is already a thread on this, wasteland this.
 
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It just proves once again that the current crop of Democrat leaders are hypocritical assholes. Is normal.

ETA: And yeah this will probably backfire on them AGAIN, but nothing will happen to anyone on the left other then they will lose the House and Trump will be re-elected. But that was going to happen anyway. ;)
 
Impeachment without conviction means little. Did nothing to Clinton.
In this case, it will mean that a lot of GOP congressmen will have to go on record to either impeach or not. It will come up during the election when the main strategy will be to try to tie every republican in a close race to an unpopular president.

IMO, she should have waited a few more months, like after the democrat nominee was settled.
 
Feels like a big moment. A Rubicon has been crossed. But for good or bad?

I dunno.

Time for a beer.
 
The only thing impeachment will show is how big of a joke a two party system is.
 
Uh, this has been going for weeks already.
 
Uh, this has been going for weeks already.
Oh, this isn’t a new motion? Like to have a trial?

Then, never mind what I said.

Except the part about the beer.
 
IMO, she should have waited a few more months, like after the democrat nominee was settled.

This will be going on long enough (obstruction is one reason) that I think it's okay to start now.
 
Oh, this isn’t a new motion? Like to have a trial?

Then, never mind what I said.

Except the part about having a beer.
It's an inquiry and one is already open, maybe a fresh inquiry though? Either way Pelosi announcing is a big deal though.
 
Impeachment without conviction means little. Did nothing to Clinton.
The Senate just passed a unanimous consent vote today for the White House to send them the FULL IG complaint. Not one Republican dissented. And guess why?

They already know what's in it.
 
So this is going to be the Democrats’ talking point of the week?
 
IMO, she should have waited a few more months, like after the democrat nominee was settled.

Pelosi, as usual, has good instincts here imo. Whether or not this hurts Trump, it is not an unlikely outcome that Biden's candidacy is marred as more facts come out. Regardless of spin, his behavior here looks corrupt and it will be kept in the public eye for a long time. Pelosi would like to know what the damage to Biden will be as early as possible and certainly before his (possible) nomination. If it doesn't hurt him, then no problem. If it does, then there's plenty of time for primary voters to shift their support to Warren or Sanders.
 


Wait, so this is a more official thing now?

Looks like I’m gonna need another beer.
 
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