Out of these serial killers - Which 2 are the scariest killers? (Part Three)

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Since there was a high demand for more people to be on here. We got part three, but with only 10 people and 2 votes. Two of them were a pair of Serial killers. So let's see what happens. Semi-Finals is next.

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Charles Ng is a convicted Hong Kong-born serial killer who committed numerous crimes in the United States. He is believed to have raped, tortured, and murdered between eleven and twenty-five victims with his accomplice Leonard Lake at Lake's cabin in Calaveras County, California, 60 miles (96 km) from Sacramento, between 1983 and 1985.

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Ivan Robert Marko Milat was an Australian serial killer who was convicted of the backpacker murders in 1996. Milat, commonly known as the Backpacker Murderer, assaulted, imprisoned, robbed and murdered two men and five women in New South Wales between 1989 and 1992.

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American serial killer H.H. Holmes was sentenced to death for the murder of his accomplice Benjamin Pitezel but confessed to 27 murders and might have killed almost 200 people. He had set up a hotel, later known as the Murder Castle, specifically for this purpose. He inspired a bestselling book.

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David Parker Ray also known as the Toy-Box Killer, was an American kidnapper, torturer, rapist and suspected serial killer. Though no bodies were found, Ray was accused by his accomplices of killing several women, and was suspected by the police to have murdered as many as sixty women from Arizona and New Mexico while living in Elephant Butte, approximately seven miles north of Truth or Consequences.

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Thomas Pitera is a Mafia hitman in the Bonanno crime family. Pitera, a soldier and later on captain of his own crew, was suspected by law enforcement of as many as 60 murders. Pitera was well known for his use of karate and other martial arts when fighting, a skill he had learned at a young age and which earned him nicknames like Tommy Karate, and The Karate Guy. Pitera is serving a life sentence at McCreary USP in McCreary County, Kentucky.

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Rodney James Alcala was an American serial killer and sex offender who was sentenced to death in California for five murders committed in that state between 1977 and 1979, and received an additional sentence of 25 years to life after pleading guilty to two homicides committed in New York in 1971 and 1977.

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Lawrence Sigmund Bittaker and Roy Lewis Norris, also known as the Tool Box Killers, were two American serial killers and rapists who committed the kidnapping, rape, torture, and murder of five teenage girls in southern California over a five-month period in 1979.

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Gary Michael Heidnik was an American criminal who kidnapped, tortured, and raped six women, murdering two of them, while holding them captive in a pit in his basement in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He was sentenced to death and executed by lethal injection in July 1999.

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Wayne Bertram Williams is an American convicted murderer who is serving life imprisonment for the 1981 killing of two men in Atlanta, Georgia, and is believed to be responsible for at least 24 of the 30 Atlanta murders of 1979–1981, also known as the Atlanta Child Murders. He was never tried for the other murders.

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Dnepropetrovsk maniacs are Ukrainian serial killers responsible for a string of murders in Dnipro in June and July 2007. The case gained additional notoriety because the killers made video recordings of some of the murders, with one of the videos leaking to the Internet. Two 19‑year-old locals, Viktor Sayenko (Ukrainian: Віктор Саєнко, Russian: Виктор Саенко), born 1 March 1988, and Igor Suprunyuk (Ukrainian: Ігор Супрунюк, Russian: Игорь Супрунюк), born 20 April 1988, were arrested and charged with 21 murders.[2][3]



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This feels like the B sides except for HH Holmes.

I know, I wasn't sure of putting this up, but since there was a demand for more of these guys. Just do part 3 but with a few votes only. I'm guess H.H Holmes will be going through the Semi-Finals. We will see.
 
I was wondering if you were gonna include Lake & Ng in this, I dont wanna call any serial killer my "favorite" but of all the stories Ive read, theirs definitely definitely fascinates me the most
So insane, so brutal, its a slasher flick B movie torture porn come to life and its so horrible
 
Personally, I woulda included the Speed Freak Killers also but theres not a lot of info on them out there so they wouldve lost anyways
 
I was wondering if you were gonna include Lake & Ng in this, I dont wanna call any serial killer my "favorite" but of all the stories Ive read, theirs definitely definitely fascinates me the most
So insane, so brutal, its a slasher flick B movie torture porn come to life and its so horrible

These two are not as well known but damn were they evil-years ago I did a deep dive into their case and to say disturbing does not even begin to touch upon the vileness. Lake killed himself with cyanide tablet sewn into a secret compartment of his clothes-like some old school secret spy shit of serial killers
 
The toolbox killers were depraved. When they were on trial the prosecution played audio tapes the killers had made while torturing and killing the young girls. While the tapes played Bittaker was smiling in the courtroom while the jury listened and cried. Beyond sick.
 
Since there was a high demand for more people to be on here. We got part three, but with only 10 people and 2 votes. Two of them were a pair of Serial killers. So let's see what happens. Semi-Finals is next.

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Charles Ng is a convicted Hong Kong-born serial killer who committed numerous crimes in the United States. He is believed to have raped, tortured, and murdered between eleven and twenty-five victims with his accomplice Leonard Lake at Lake's cabin in Calaveras County, California, 60 miles (96 km) from Sacramento, between 1983 and 1985.

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Ivan Robert Marko Milat was an Australian serial killer who was convicted of the backpacker murders in 1996. Milat, commonly known as the Backpacker Murderer, assaulted, imprisoned, robbed and murdered two men and five women in New South Wales between 1989 and 1992.

HH-Holmes.jpg


American serial killer H.H. Holmes was sentenced to death for the murder of his accomplice Benjamin Pitezel but confessed to 27 murders and might have killed almost 200 people. He had set up a hotel, later known as the Murder Castle, specifically for this purpose. He inspired a bestselling book.

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David Parker Ray also known as the Toy-Box Killer, was an American kidnapper, torturer, rapist and suspected serial killer. Though no bodies were found, Ray was accused by his accomplices of killing several women, and was suspected by the police to have murdered as many as sixty women from Arizona and New Mexico while living in Elephant Butte, approximately seven miles north of Truth or Consequences.

thomas-pitera-in-prison.jpg


Thomas Pitera is a Mafia hitman in the Bonanno crime family. Pitera, a soldier and later on captain of his own crew, was suspected by law enforcement of as many as 60 murders. Pitera was well known for his use of karate and other martial arts when fighting, a skill he had learned at a young age and which earned him nicknames like Tommy Karate, and The Karate Guy. Pitera is serving a life sentence at McCreary USP in McCreary County, Kentucky.

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Rodney James Alcala was an American serial killer and sex offender who was sentenced to death in California for five murders committed in that state between 1977 and 1979, and received an additional sentence of 25 years to life after pleading guilty to two homicides committed in New York in 1971 and 1977.

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Lawrence Sigmund Bittaker and Roy Lewis Norris, also known as the Tool Box Killers, were two American serial killers and rapists who committed the kidnapping, rape, torture, and murder of five teenage girls in southern California over a five-month period in 1979.

gary-heidnik-mugshot.jpg


Gary Michael Heidnik was an American criminal who kidnapped, tortured, and raped six women, murdering two of them, while holding them captive in a pit in his basement in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He was sentenced to death and executed by lethal injection in July 1999.


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Not mentioned here, but Rodney Alcala was once a contestant (and winner) on the Dating Game during his killing spree, and had already served prison time for raping and beating a 13-year-old girl.

The woman who picked him later elected not to follow through with their date, because he was acting creepy and weird backstage after the show.
 
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Went with Holmes and Ng/Lake.
Speaking of duos, I forgot about Muhammad/Malvo (DC Sniper killings). Do they count?
I think Muhammad and Malvo technically fall under the heading of spree killer, instead of serial killer. Tandem serial killers are rare, but tandem spree killings are a bit more common (not common by any means, but more common in spree killings).

If Muhammad and Malvo are included, then it opens the door for the Columbine shooters, Dylan Roof, and so on. I think keeping the two categories separate is probably right. Serial Killers are sexual predators. Spree killers are thrill seekers.
 
I think Muhammad and Malvo technically fall under the heading of spree killer, instead of serial killer. Tandem serial killers are rare, but tandem spree killings are a bit more common (not common by any means, but more common in spree killings).

If Muhammad and Malvo are included, then it opens the door for the Columbine shooters, Dylan Roof, and so on. I think keeping the two categories separate is probably right. Serial Killers are sexual predators. Spree killers are thrill seekers.
Could be. The difference though with Columbine, Dylan Roof, etc., is that those are one-off events. More what I’d think of as a mass murder. Same with Charles Whitman, that clock tower killer. The DC Snipers killed multiple people at multiple different times, that seems like a serial killer. But tbf I haven’t looked up the definitions.
 
Jesus christ, I didn't know about the Lake, Ng duo. My god, what vile, evil human beings. I have no desire to see any of their tapes.
 
Could be. The difference though with Columbine, Dylan Roof, etc., is that those are one-off events. More what I’d think of as a mass murder. Same with Charles Whitman, that clock tower killer. The DC Snipers killed multiple people at multiple different times, that seems like a serial killer. But tbf I haven’t looked up the definitions.
Well, there is no standard definition universally agreed upon. To me it’s not just an issue of timing, but also motivation. For example, men or women who kill multiple spouses over time for insurance also don’t really fit into the category of serial killer.

As I mentioned previously, spree killers (as well as rampage killers) typically aren’t sexual predators. Serial killers are motivated by sexual deviancy. Spree killers aren’t.

There’s no clear cut textbook definition to operate by, but I just don’t think Muhammad and Malvo fall under the category of serial killer. I don’t even think Aileen Wurnos was really a serial killer. She was an anti-social rampage killer, but not a sexual deviant the way Gacy and Bundy were.

That’s purely my own opinion, though.
 
3 polls and no mention of Wayne Williams the Atlanta Child Murderer @MXZT ?
 
I watched a documentary about Ng and Lake, it showed a clip of one of the home videos they made where a woman was tied up in a chair.

She was complaining that she was hot and one of them responded "suffer" in the most apathetic way.

They also took her small child from her, I don't remember if it was an infant or not and told her they gave it away to another family.

If there is a hell I hope Leonard Lake is in the worst possible portion of it.
 
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The toolbox killers were depraved. When they were on trial the prosecution played audio tapes the killers had made while torturing and killing the young girls. While the tapes played Bittaker was smiling in the courtroom while the jury listened and cried. Beyond sick.

I watched a documentary on them and they showed a scene from the trial where people in the court room ran out while the tapes were being played.

You could a ~ 3 second audio of the tape and it was the blood curdling thing I've ever heard.
 
Also, I don't recommend it but you can't find a written transcript of the tape David Parker Ray would play for his victims.

Some of the most depraved shit imaginable.

He told them he would chain them on all fours at one point and use some kind of scent to have his dogs try to have sex with them.
 
Thanks for part 3 @MXZT

Fun fact about Alcala. He won the dating game show and was seletected to go on a date, but after the show ended, backstage he came off as a right creep, so the woman who picked him flat out refused to go anywhere further after.

It's a good job she said no. Because years before I believe he had murdered 3 or 4 women. Then after the show brutally tortured and murdered more women.

I think he comes off as a creepy weirdo on the show as well, tbh.

Here's his dating game episode:


 
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Not mentioned here, but Rodney Alcala was once a contestant (and winner) on the Dating Game during his killing spree, and had already served prison time for raping and beating a 13-year-old girl.

The woman who picked him later elected not to follow through with their date, because he was acting creepy and weird backstage after the show.

Beat me to it lol
 
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