On Kavanaugh: Do you want the most conservative Supreme Court in a century? Do you agree with them?

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Frighteningly, the most ardent and passionate supporters of Supreme Court appointee Brett Kavanaugh seem to know and care little about his judicial posture and the likely effect of his appointment to the Supreme Court. However, while Kavanaugh's opinions on social issues like contraceptive rights may be troubling, it's his slavish and shameless devotion to the ruling business class - and complete disregard for workers, consumers, and persons subject to harassment by the police - that is most horrifying.

The Supreme Court has been controlled by moderate conservatives for nearly all of American history, outside of the two decades following the Second World War, the replacement of moderate conservative Anthony Kennedy with far-right conservative Brett Kavanaugh will almost certainly have huge consequences on American judicial precedent.

Now it would be easy enough to dig up precedents from the last time the Court was this conservative - such as the ones that outlawed child labor laws and overtime pay laws, or that said that the government could arrest and imprison people for nonviolent political beliefs, or that permitted laws that banned women from owning property, or that said that Japanese internment was constitutional. And we could very well see such a return to Lochner Era jurisprudence. However, we don't need to conjure up the ghost of James McReynolds to speculate on just how quickly American law and policy could change - by looking at conservative opinions and dissents over the past three decades, as well as some of Kavanaugh's own dissents (highlighted in yellow).



So let's dig into a few areas:

Do you believe that corporations should be able to circumvent collective bargaining requirements by hiring undocumented workers? Kavanaugh does, as did the conservative Court in Hoffman Plastic Compounds, Inc. v. NLRB, which held that employers could get out of paying backpay to workers aggrieved by an unfair labor practice if those workers were undocumented.


Do you think that the government should be able to expand a warrantless search into one's pockets and inner clothing, even if a stop-and-frisk produced no evidence? Kavanaugh thinks so.


Do you think that consumers and employees injured by corporations should be forced into arbitration proceedings and prevented from litigating the case in court - even if the arbitration proceedings lack substantive due process? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you think that the government should be able to fire, demote, or otherwise silence government whistleblowers? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you think that the government should be able to conduct warrentless search and seizures of cell phone data? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you think that American corporations should be able to escape liability by outsourcing and committing misconduct overseas? Kavanaugh sure thinks so.


Do you think that the judiciary should be able to circumvent the legislature and approve large corporate mergers that violate antitrust laws? Kavanaugh would like to do that, law be damned.


Do you think that corporations, unions, and rich citizens should be able to spend limitless amounts of money toward political campaigns? The conservative Court says yes, and furthermore seems postured to further degrade disclosure requirements so that it's harder to see where political donations and expenditures come from.


Do you think that the federal government should be further restricted from passing environmental laws to address the issue of climate change? The conservative bench seems to favor a race to the bottom by states.


Should states be able to purge limitless voters from voting rolls on the basis of having not voted in recent elections? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you think that employers should be held liable for deaths of employees due to the employer's negligence in delegating an abnormally dangerous job duty? Kavanaugh says no


Do you think that citizens should be allowed by the Constitution to sue the government for violations of their Fourth Amendment rights? The conservative bench says they shouldn't.


Do you think the government should be able to carry out warrantless searches when arrestees are detained? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you believe that the government should be able to penalize non-violent speech given to political entities deemed without due process by the executive branch to be unsavory? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you believe that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau should be thrown out as unconstitutional because it has a "termination for good cause" provision? Kavanaugh thinks so.


Do you think that the government should allow congressional redistricting that distorts democracy along the lines of race? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you think that flag burning should be a punishable criminal offense, unprotected by the First Amendment? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you think that net neutrality, which prevented corporations from discriminating against consumers with regard to content and access, should be outlawed as a violation of the First Amendment? Kavanaugh does.


Should the Court be able to disregard stare decisis and outlaw mandatory union dues and enable union free-riding? The conservative Court did just that.


Should the government be able to, without a warrant or due process, seize property it believes to be obscene or immoral? The conservative bench has said yes.


Do you think that the Supreme Court should serve as the de facto arm for one of the major political parties in political disputes? Kavanaugh seems to think that's good.


Do you think that employers should be able to discriminate against former union members and refuse to recognize their employees' union? Kavanaugh says "go ahead."
 
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@Quipling the non-Kavanaugh ones were just off the top of my head. If there are any other potential areas of concern that you have in mind, please do let me know.
 
But he’s PRO LIFE & a Christian.

It’s a shame this was not the route taken to try to stop him. Might have been able to get independents on board
 
Sure.

The right won, "elections have consequences," and I tend to be a bit to the right on social policy.

To be fair, on economics, he and I are unlikely to agree, but that is what "traditional America" is. A competitive or hyper-competitive society that is fair by the virtue of letting everyone "run the race" of life fairly. To a large extent, that way of life works.

On personal politics - I do not see him being any more to the right than Sotomayor is to the left if analyzed possible issue by possible issue, in fact, I would hazard to guess that Sotomayor would be a bit more inclined to have further reaching interpretation of laws.
 
Fuck, that's gonna be a lot of reading.

Yeah the court is going to be a farce for probably the next 20 years. It's very unfortunate for civil rights.
 
But he’s PRO LIFE & a Christian.

It’s a shame this was not the route taken to try to stop him. Might have been able to get independents on board

No, the Democrats' route was certainly better. Getting Republicans or Independents or, hell, even Democrats to respond to judicial precedent arguments is like trying to get a woman aroused with a video of Ted Cruz going ham on a corn dog.

Also, I seriously doubt that Roe v. Wade is actually going to be repealed. And judicial precedent is already extremely skewed in favor of Christians thanks to Alito and the current Court.
 
Kavanough also made an extremely bias statement in the hearing.

Saying that liberals groups are after em and "what goes around, comes around"

It's clear that he is butthurt against liberals and extremely bias now...He isnt impartial at all...His statement shows that he is out for liberal blood.



Cant trust this guy be impartial and fair...He will vote against liberals out of spite.
 
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Fuck, that's gonna be a lot of reading.

Yeah the court is going to be a farce for probably the next 20 years. It's very unfortunate for civil rights.

I'm ashamed that I've delayed so long is thoroughly reviewing Kavanaugh's record on the DC Circuit.

But it's appalling. Like...worse than Clarence Thomas (in substance, not in delivery, of course). He'll be close to the most extreme jurist in the past century, and he'll without a doubt be the most openly and actively partisan.
 
No, the Democrats' route was certainly better. Getting Republicans or Independents or, hell, even Democrats to respond to judicial precedent arguments is like trying to get a woman aroused with a video of Ted Cruz going ham on a corn dog.

Also, I seriously doubt that Roe v. Wade is actually going to be repealed. And judicial precedent is already extremely skewed in favor of Christians thanks to Alito and the current Court.
The pro lifers even know it won’t be repealed but they still can dream

No. The Dems should have stood on principle then at least they might win future elections. This quick and irrational way of resisting will result in them hurting themselves

We may disagree on that, but time will tell. And I’m pretty confident I’ll be proven right
 
Also, I seriously doubt that Roe v. Wade is actually going to be repealed. And judicial precedent is already extremely skewed in favor of Christians thanks to Alito and the current Court.

Probably not repealed, but likely walked back.

Something like limits on late term abortions is probably a good and judicious idea to most people, and for good moral reasons.

Save rape or incest, that kind of act is outright wrong, and only someone really, really blinded by absolutism in reproductive rights would champion killing a nearly or wholly developed baby simple because it is unborn.
 
Frighteningly, the most ardent and passionate supporters of Supreme Court appointee Brett Kavanaugh seem to know and care little about his judicial posture and the likely effect of his appointment to the Supreme Court. However, while Kavanaugh's opinions on social issues like contraceptive rights may be troubling, it's his slavish and shameless devotion to the ruling business class - and complete disregard for workers, consumers, and persons subject to harassment by the police - that is most horrifying.

The Supreme Court has been controlled by moderate conservatives for nearly all of American history, outside of the two decades following the Second World War, the replacement of moderate conservative Anthony Kennedy with far-right conservative Brett Kavanaugh will almost certainly have huge consequences on American judicial precedent.

Now it would be easy enough to dig up precedents from the last time the Court was this conservative - such as the ones that outlawed child labor laws and overtime pay laws, or that said that the government could arrest and imprison people for nonviolent political beliefs, or that permitted laws that banned women from owning property, or that said that Japanese internment was constitutional. And we could very well see such a return to Lochner Era jurisprudence. However, we don't need to conjure up the ghost of James McReynolds to speculate on just how quickly American law and policy could change - by looking at conservative opinions and dissents over the past three decades, as well as some of Kavanaugh's own dissents (highlighted in yellow).



So let's dig into a few areas:

Do you believe that corporations should be able to circumvent collective bargaining requirements by hiring undocumented workers? Kavanaugh does, as did the conservative Court in Hoffman Plastic Compounds, Inc. v. NLRB, which held that employers could get out of paying backpay to workers aggrieved by an unfair labor practice if those workers were undocumented.


Do you think that the government should be able to expand a warrantless search into one's pockets and inner clothing, even if a stop-and-frisk produced no evidence? Kavanaugh thinks so.


Do you think that consumers and employees injured by corporations should be forced into arbitration proceedings and prevented from litigating the case in court - even if the arbitration proceedings lack substantive due process? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you think that the government should be able to fire, demote, or otherwise silence government whistleblowers? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you think that the government should be able to conduct warrentless search and seizures of cell phone data? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you think that American corporations should be able to escape liability by outsourcing and committing misconduct overseas? Kavanaugh sure thinks so.


Do you think that the judiciary should be able to circumvent the legislature and approve large corporate mergers that violate antitrust laws? Kavanaugh would like to do that, law be damned.


Do you think that corporations, unions, and rich citizens should be able to spend limitless amounts of money toward political campaigns? The conservative Court says yes, and furthermore seems postured to further degrade disclosure requirements so that it's harder to see where political donations and expenditures come from.


Do you think that the federal government should be further restricted from passing environmental laws to address the issue of climate change? The conservative bench seems to favor a race to the bottom by states.


Should states be able to purge limitless voters from voting rolls on the basis of having not voted in recent elections? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you think that employers should be held liable for deaths of employees due to the employer's negligence in delegating an abnormally dangerous job duty? Kavanaugh says no


Do you think that citizens should be allowed by the Constitution to sue the government for violations of their Fourth Amendment rights? The conservative bench says they shouldn't.


Do you think the government should be able to carry out warrantless searches when arrestees are detained? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you believe that the government should be able to penalize non-violent speech given to political entities deemed without due process by the executive branch to be unsavory? The conservative Court says yes.


Do you believe that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau should be thrown out as unconstitutional because it has a "termination for good cause" provision? Kavanaugh thinks so.


Do you think that the government should allow congressional redistricting that distorts democracy along the lines of race? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you think that flag burning should be a punishable criminal offense, unprotected by the First Amendment? The conservative bench says yes.


Do you think that net neutrality, which prevented corporations from discriminating against consumers with regard to content and access, should be outlawed as a violation of the First Amendment? Kavanaugh does.


Should the Court be able to disregard stare decisis and outlaw mandatory union dues and enable union free-riding? The conservative Court did just that.


Should the government be able to, without a warrant or due process, seize property it believes to be obscene or immoral? The conservative bench has said yes.


Do you think that the Supreme Court should serve as the de facto arm for one of the major political parties in political disputes? Kavanaugh seems to think that's good.


Do you think that employers should be able to discriminate against former union members and refuse to recognize their employees' union? Kavanaugh says "go ahead."

I need a conservative replacement on the bench for personal reasons. That said I acknowledge these issues and that is why I supported Hardiman of the three Trump put forward.

Out of all potential jurists out there I would like Don Willet. He is much better on the issues I might agree with you on and is a solid conservtive on the issues that matter.
My problem with Kavauagh is he seems to be in favor with big government which is not very conservative and yet he is also pro corporation in a way that strangely is actually anti free market in my view.

He is great on 2a though
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/potential-nominee-profile-don-willett/
 
Whatever Kavanaugh thinks or doesn't think shouldn't matter at this point.

He proved in the hearing that he isn't emotionally stable or politically impartial enough to make decisions at a county level, let alone the SCOTUS.

And I say that knowing full damn well the Dems didn't give a shit about either of those points- they were only out for blood. Although, shockingly, that pettiness exposed a deeply troubled and unqualified man.
 
The pro lifers even know it won’t be repealed but they still can dream

No. The Dems should have stood on principle then at least they might win future elections. This quick and irrational way of resisting will result in them hurting themselves

We may disagree on that, but time will tell. And I’m pretty confident I’ll be proven right

Idk, it didn't hurt the Republicans. They weren't standing on principle when they refused to do their constitutional duty and held open Garland's seat for a year. And they cleaned up in 2016.

Newt Gingrich's law has held firm: obstruction benefits the minority party. But at least here you can argue the Democrats are genuinely doing it for the good of the country (I would support them doing just about anything to keep this piece of shit off the Court). I don't think you could say that about Gingrich/McConnnell's GOP Congresses.

Whatever Kavanaugh thinks or doesn't think shouldn't matter at this point.

He proved in the hearing that he isn't emotionally stable or politically impartial enough to make decisions at a county level, let alone the SCOTUS.

And I say that knowing full damn well the Dems didn't give a shit about either of those points- they were only out for blood. Although, shockingly, that pettiness exposed a deeply troubled and unqualified man.

Yeah, @PolishHeadlock (a fellow Eagles fan btw) expressed similar sentiments. And I'm kind of surprised that those sentiments haven't been voiced more widely.
 
Whatever Kavanaugh thinks or doesn't think shouldn't matter at this point.

He proved in the hearing that he isn't emotionally stable or politically impartial enough to make decisions at a county level, let alone the SCOTUS.

And I say that knowing full damn well the Dems didn't give a shit about either of those points- they were only out for blood. Although, shockingly, that pettiness exposed a deeply troubled and unqualified man.

Its a little unclear how his outburst reflects his ability as jurist. He isn't going to be confronted with anything like what he is facing now when he is on the bench.
 
Its a little unclear how his outburst reflects his ability as jurist. He isn't going to be confronted with anything like what he is facing now when he is on the bench.
SCOTUS appointments should extend beyond pure job merit. Just as you wouldn't hire a police officer without first administering a psych evaluation.
 
SCOTUS appointments should extend beyond pure job merit. Just as you wouldn't hire a police officer without first administering a psych evaluation.

A police officers psych eval is directly tied to whether he can handle the stress of the job when on the beat. The same psych evaluation would be wildly unnecessary to hiring a scientist no matter how important the job.
 
People on the right do not care what he has done to women in the past. It is a non-issue. For this it is purely "us vs. Them" and winning is all that matters. Putting in an honorable judge is secondary. As long as he is alt right, they are happy. That is Republicans in a nutshell. The dems want to slow things down and make sure we know who we are getting first and for some reason that is an issue
 
Your entire legal system is trash anyway. Other first world common law countries don’t suffer from your extreme partisanship and a reason for that is your system and culture surrounding lawyers. The culture encourages insanity and it doesn’t help your lower courts are still out of a wild west movie. Look at that crazy bitch who is always on Fox News (the judge).

Changing the culture would also increase the standard. When it comes to advocacy, what US attorney could even hold a candle to a magic circle QC? It’s different leagues but you can take steps to improve it.

The fact you even worry about partisan Supreme Court judges is proof how messed up the system is. Judges at that level should trandscend politics, not behave like school children.
 
Your entire legal system is trash anyway. Other first world common law countries don’t suffer from your extreme partisanship and a reason for that is your system and culture surrounding lawyers. The culture encourages insanity and it doesn’t help your lower courts are still out of a wild west movie. Look at that crazy bitch who is always on Fox News (the judge).

Changing the culture would also increase the standard. When it comes to advocacy, what US attorney could even hold a candle to a magic circle QC? It’s different leagues but you can take steps to improve it.

The fact you even worry about partisan Supreme Court judges is proof how messed up the system is. Judges at that level should trandscend politics, not behave like school children.

Since you've opted to bash our entire legal system. How about you go into specifics. Because I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
A police officers psych eval is directly tied to whether he can handle the stress of the job when on the beat. The same psych evaluation would be wildly unnecessary to hiring a scientist no matter how important the job.
My point is I believe emotional stability is pertinent to being a competent Supreme Court Justice. Kavanaugh clearly is not, judging by his nonstop whimpering, forceful defense, and partisan shit flinging over something he says isn't true. If he's working a case on the bench where he strongly disagrees with his SCOTUS colleagues, can we expect the same emotional outburst? I'd rather not take the chance.

Am I asking too much?
 
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