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There are a lot of gyms with Muay Thai classes in the NYC area and it seems really hard to find information on all of them, especially considering only one gym publicly posts its prices. Please help me fill in missing information and add any additional details to any of the existing gyms I have posted about. Any experiences with the gyms would be great. Please post dates of attendance and how much you paid.


Church Street
Location: Church Street Boxing Gym
25 Park Place
New York, NY 10007
(212) 571-1333

Facility: Pretty nice boxing gym, Muay Thai is in the back room. The room is awkward to work out in, there is a large boxing ring with no room to work out on three sides of it. Gets cramped quickly. The side that has some room to work out has about ten feet or so of hardwood floor, then it switches to a strange metal floor which you can't workout barefoot on. **Review was previous to their renovation in mid 2010

Instructors: Jason Strout. Seems like a nice guy. I don't think he is a Kru. I felt like the class was lacking mostly in the usage of thai pads, it seemed to be a mix of a cardio kickboxing class with some conditioning drills to make it seem difficult. I feel like Jason isn't into teaching groups, it seems like you'd need to train privately with him for a good workout.

Reputation: Very well known gym, they run the Friday Night Fight series.

Cost: Pretty reasonable, $20 for pay per class. The rest of the rates are actually on their site, seems to be the only gym willing to post their rates.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/church-street-boxing-gym-nyc-322194/


5 Points
Location: Five Points Academy: Welcome to Five Points
277 Canal
3rd Floor, New York, NY 10013
(212) 226-4474

Facility: Visited once, looked pretty good, had weight equipment, kettle bells, boxing ring...

Instructors: Has a combination of Krus and coaches. I have heard good things about Steve Milles, never trained with any of them.

Reputation: I have seen them compete a few times at events and the fighters do pretty well.

Cost: Pretty expensive, I don't remember the numbers when I visited two years ago.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/wat-vs-5-points-fitness-829512/



The Wat
Location: Wat
**Moved in late 2011 to
291 Broadway Level B
(entrance is located on Reade Street)
New York, NY 10013

Old Address
31 Howard Street
New York, NY 10013-3160
(212) 966-4010

Facility: Visited once, very nice, very clean. **New location still has hardwood floors

Instructors: Phil Nurse and others, very friendly. Don't waste your time with the Absolute Beginners class, it is too basic. I wasn't able to try any other classes.

Reputation: Phil Nurse.

Cost: Very expensive. I think the best option is the prepaid package for six months which was either 1k or 1.1k. Or $30 when you pay per class plus a initial membership fee ($200 or something like that).

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/wat-vs-5-points-fitness-829512/


Fighthouse
Location: Fighthouse
122 West 27th Street, 2nd floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 807-9202

Facility: Fairly large place, but divided up with a bunch of different martial arts including some weird ones. Muay Thai space is limited and sometimes crowded. Gym is usually dirty. No showers. The people that run the place are constantly dropping my name off the pay per class list because I don't come often enough.

Instructors: Kru Brandon Levi. Very nice guy, pretty good instruction. He constantly criticizes me for taking a step with my kick though.

Cost: Reasonable, $20 pay per class with a $50 membership fee. I was told this is going up on 2010. I think they also have a $135 or so monthly fee.

Reputation: Not too sure, I feel like they aren't as well known. I have only seen one of their fighters at Friday Night Fights and he got KO'ed pretty bad.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/new-yorkers-fighthouse-gym-847646/


CROM
Location: CROM Martial Training
108-13 ROCKAWAY BEACH DRIVE
ROCKAWAY BEACH, NY 11694
718-318-0233

Facility: I trained at their old Upper East Side Location and at Church Street. The UES location was too expensive, he was renting a small area from a specialized gym. Training at Church Street was great. Newest location is way to far from NYC :(

Instructors: Chris Romulo. I don't think he is a Kru, but his instruction is top notch. I had a great workout every time I trained with him. Very positive guy.

Cost: UES was $30 a class, Church Street was an insane $10 per class deal, I wish I wasn't working so much when he was there. I don't know the new gym rates.

Reputation: Chris "Mr Classic" Romulo has fought at a bunch of the Friday Night Fights and usually does well.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/crom-martial-training-lion-roar-camp-1101826/


Camp Undefeated
Location: Camp Undefeated - MMA - Mixed Martial Arts - Muay Thai - Kick Boxing - BJJ - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - Manhattan New York, NYC
250 W 40 St
Manhattan, New York, NY 10018
(212) 302-0402

Facility: Very very silly name for a gym. Have not been to, but looks pretty nice. Haven't heard the most positive reviews from Lazlo the owner.


Instructors: ?

Reputation: Not the best. The owner seems like he should be doing a better job. Fighters usually get defeated at Friday Night Fights.


Cost: Pretty reasonable. $599 for six months. I was a little confused about the rest of the pricing because some of the options also have a membership fee.

Reviews:
MMA Underground Forums
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/anyone-trained-camp-undefeated-1070539/


Ultimate Gym
Location: The Ultimate Gym NY - Authentic Muay Thai
5 West 30th Street
Manhattan, New York, NY 10001
(212) 725-4666

Facility: ?

Instructors: ?

Reputation: I never really have heard of them or seen them fight. They don't answer the phone for me.

Cost: ?

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/ultimate-gym-nyc-346987/


Sitan
Location: Untitled Document
2573 Steinway Street
Long Island City, NY
(718) 932-5000‎
Too far and no good public transit options for me.

Facility: ?

Instructors: ?

Cost: Not sure, but I have heard it is the cheapest around.

Reputation: Their fighters usually kick ass at the Friday Night Fights.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/sitan-gym-nyc-910878/


Anderson's Martial Arts
Location: Welcome to Anderson's Martial Arts Academy
394 Broadway
New York, NY 10013
(212) 766-6622

Facility: ?

Instructors: ?

Cost: ?

Reputation: Seen a few fighters lose at Friday Night Fights in the past years, but recently they seem to be doing better.

Reviews:


North Jersey Muay Thai
Location: north jersey muay thai
95 Dell Glen Avenue
Lodi, NJ
(862) 591-1281‎
Too far from NYC.

Facility: ?

Instructors: ?

Reputation: Their fighters usually kick ass at the Friday Night Fights.

Cost: Seems to be reasonable for NYC standards, but maybe high for NJ. I think they charge around $135/month.

Reviews:


New York San Da
Location: NYC Kick Boxing Classes - Kickboxing Classes New York City
218 W 37th street, 5th floor
New York, NY 10018
(917) 783.4791

Facility: ?

Instructors: ?

Reputation: Haven't heard too much about them, their website looks scammy.

Cost: ?

Reviews:




New York Jiu Jitsu
Location: New York Jiu Jitsu - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, American Jiu Jitsu, MMA, Yoga, PTK and Strength and Endurance Training
666 Broadway, Lower Level (entrance on Bond St.)
(212) 343- 8310

Facility: Nice and clean according to Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums - View Profile: Azim

Instructors: Coban Lookchaomaesaitong at the original time of post. Coban moved to Philly, then back to NYC in late 2011. Opening his own gym in early 2012

Cost: ?

Reputation: ?

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/muay-thai-traning-nyc-1137257/#post36026526
 
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Though I train at 5 Points, I hear Sitan has top quality instructors, that's why aclitvof their fighters do quite well. On top of that I notice they have some kind of relationship with a good camp back in Bangkok- Kaewsamrit Boxing Gym. They sell their shorts at least.
 
I've trained at the wat and sitan. If you're just starting out go to sitan. Aziz, the head instructor, is very good at teaching the fundamentals. If you have the fundamentals down, go and work with Phil at the wat, you'll learn a lot from him in terms of strategy. Also, Phil doesn't teach a straighforward, walk you down style of muay thai that a lot of traditional thai trainers favor.
 
Go to Lions Roar gym man, it's in the Bronx.
Check out the site lionsroarcamp.com
Kru Williams owns the gym and training is everyday except Sundays.
Cost is $100-$140 a month (Not a 100% sure)
There's a boxing gym being built down stair (Should be done by March I think)
You can also train BJJ here if you like. Check the place out man
 
Sitan fighters do very very well. Tough SOBs. No screwing around with those guys. They come to bang.
 
I know a guy that trains a Church Street and heard it is very good.
 
Coban Lookchaomaesaitong is now teaching in NYC at New York Jiu Jitsu (New York Jiu Jitsu - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, American Jiu Jitsu, MMA, Yoga, PTK and Strength and Endurance Training). He's a former world champion and a Muay Thai legend (YouTube Highlights here: YouTube - Coban Lookchaomaesaithong HighLights). He's also a fantastic teacher and true class-act.

Coban's apparently been at NYJJ for the past few months but they haven't done the best job of getting the word out. I recently checked out the gym and the facilities are some of the nicest (and cleanest) I've seen in NYC. Everyone I met there (students and instructors) seemed really nice as well. They also have an MMA cage and offer BJJ and MMA classes, both of which are taught by BJJ blackbelts. I didn't get that close a look at either of these classes but what I saw looked pretty good.

The MT class I took there was very much a beginner class and fairly small, which was not a bad thing since it afforded me plenty of personalized attention from Coban (who gave me some fantastic advice to improve my kicks). The flip side is that NYJJ doesn't yet have enough experienced students to merit intermediate or advanced classes, so anyone looking for sparring or more advanced technical training will need to wait until more people find out that Coban is there. Once that happens I have no doubt they'll attract a lot of local talent.
 
It anyone wants to post a review and wants to follow my format

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This thread was linked in another post. Thought I'd add some comments and note some big changes My comments in red.

also added reviews to two gyms

ascorbic said:
There are a lot of gyms with Muay Thai classes in the NYC area and it seems really hard to find information on all of them, especially considering only one gym publicly posts its prices. Please help me fill in missing information and add any additional details to any of the existing gyms I have posted about. Any experiences with the gyms would be great. Please post dates of attendance and how much you paid.


Church Street
Location: Church Street Boxing Gym
25 Park Place
New York, NY 10007
(212) 571-1333

Facility: Pretty nice boxing gym, Muay Thai is in the back room. The room is awkward to work out in, there is a large boxing ring with no room to work out on three sides of it. Gets cramped quickly. The side that has some room to work out has about ten feet or so of hardwood floor, then it switches to a strange metal floor which you can't workout barefoot on. They have recently renovated, gym is looking good. See their fb page: Church St Renovations- Part 1 | Facebook

Instructors: Jason Strout. Seems like a nice guy. I don't think he is a Kru. I felt like the class was lacking mostly in the usage of thai pads, it seemed to be a mix of a cardio kickboxing class with some conditioning drills to make it seem difficult. I feel like Jason isn't into teaching groups, it seems like you'd need to train privately with him for a good workout. Jason is a good guy. his group classes are pretty guy at the intermediate level

Reputation: Very well known gym, they run the Friday Night Fight series.

Cost: Pretty reasonable, $20 for pay per class. The rest of the rates are actually on their site, seems to be the only gym willing to post their rates. Unless you do a contract, high monthly cost(around 220, I think. 165 w/ a contract)

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/church-street-boxing-gym-nyc-322194/


5 Points
Location: Five Points Academy: Welcome to Five Points
277 Canal
3rd Floor, New York, NY 10013
(212) 226-4474

Facility: Visited once, looked pretty good, had weight equipment, kettle bells, boxing ring...

Instructors: Has a combination of Krus and coaches. I have heard good things about Steve Milles, never trained with any of them.

Reputation: I have seen them compete a few times at events and the fighters do pretty well. I think the recently lost their best fighter...

Cost: Pretty expensive, I don't remember the numbers when I visited two years ago.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/wat-vs-5-points-fitness-829512/


Fighthouse
Location: Fighthouse
122 West 27th Street, 2nd floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 807-9202

Facility: Fairly large place, but divided up with a bunch of different martial arts including some weird ones. Muay Thai space is limited and sometimes crowded. Gym is usually dirty. No showers. The people that run the place are constantly dropping my name off the pay per class list because I don't come often enough. Old location shut down due to building violations. They have been renting shitty temp locations

Instructors: Kru Brandon Levi. Very nice guy, pretty good instruction. He constantly criticizes me for taking a step with my kick though. He owns/runs Evolution Muay Thai now

Cost: Reasonable, $20 pay per class with a $50 membership fee. I was told this is going up on 2010. I think they also have a $135 or so monthly fee.

Reputation: Not too sure, I feel like they aren't as well known. I have only seen one of their fighters at Friday Night Fights and he got KO'ed pretty bad. This.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/new-yorkers-fighthouse-gym-847646/


CROM
Location: CROM Martial Training
108-13 ROCKAWAY BEACH DRIVE
ROCKAWAY BEACH, NY 11694
718-318-0233

Facility: I trained at their old Upper East Side Location and at Church Street. The UES location was too expensive, he was renting a small area from a specialized gym. Training at Church Street was great. Newest location is way to far from NYC :( They're in the Rockaways. They just moved to a new location in the rockaways like last week

Instructors: Chris Romulo. I don't think he is a Kru, but his instruction is top notch. I had a great workout every time I trained with him. Very positive guy. Awesome guy, great coach

Cost: UES was $30 a class, Church Street was an insane $10 per class deal, I wish I wasn't working so much when he was there. I don't know the new gym rates. I think classes are $15 each. 20 if you do both the boxing and MT class

Reputation: Chris "Mr Classic" Romulo has fought at a bunch of the Friday Night Fights and usually does well. This.

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/crom-martial-training-lion-roar-camp-1101826/


Camp Undefeated
Location: Camp Undefeated - MMA - Mixed Martial Arts - Muay Thai - Kick Boxing - BJJ - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - Manhattan New York, NYC
250 W 40 St
Manhattan, New York, NY 10018
(212) 302-0402

Facility: Very very silly name for a gym. Have not been to, but looks pretty nice. Haven't heard the most positive reviews from Lazlo the owner. This.


Instructors: ? James "Mad Dog" Meals MMA Stats, Pictures, News, Videos, Biography, and More - Sherdog.com this says it all...

Reputation: Not the best. The owner seems like he should be doing a better job. Fighters usually get defeated at Friday Night Fights. This.


Cost: Pretty reasonable. $599 for six months. I was a little confused about the rest of the pricing because some of the options also have a membership fee.

Reviews:
MMA Underground Forums
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/anyone-trained-camp-undefeated-1070539/


Sitan
Location: Untitled Document
2573 Steinway Street
Long Island City, NY
(718) 932-5000‎
Too far and no good public transit options for me.

Facility: Very small, cramped at times. Matted floor (clean). No showers. Tiny change rooms?

Instructors: Aziz Nabih. Greatest in the nation.

Cost: Not sure, but I have heard it is the cheapest around. 140, i think

Reputation: Their fighters usually kick ass at the Friday Night Fights. This. Aziz and Rami (trainer at the Philly location) have created some world champs

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/sitan-gym-nyc-910878/

New York Jiu Jitsu
Location: New York Jiu Jitsu - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, American Jiu Jitsu, MMA, Yoga, PTK and Strength and Endurance Training
666 Broadway, Lower Level (entrance on Bond St.)
(212) 343- 8310

Facility: Nice and clean according to Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums - View Profile: Azim

Instructors: Coban Lookchaomaesaitong Coban is at Daddis in Philly now. I heard say that Omar Ahmed from Sitan was teaching a class there. Not sure.

Cost: Really expensive I hear. Over $200 a month

Reputation: ?

Reviews:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/muay-thai-traning-nyc-1137257/#post36026526
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See my previous post

TwoFour Lowkick said:
This thread was linked in another post. Thought I'd add some comments and note some big changes My comments in red.

also added reviews to two gyms
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Evolution Muay Thai
Location: Muay Thai NYC, Muay Thai New York, Evolution Muay Thai NYC
12 w. 27th Street #2
New York, NY 10010
(646) 649-3976

Facility: Nice space. Everything is new (gym opened up in like june I think). No showers or locker rooms yet

Instructors: Brandon Levi. Nice guy, not a fan of his style or the nipple pinching or dirty jokes that go on during class.

Reputation: Haven't been impressed by their fighters. They all seem to brawl. Not much technique displayed. Decent cardio. If you want to see their students:





While that is a beginners' class, I recognize those faces from the advanced/sparring class as well. So, there you go.

Cost: 140-160 range i think. 20 per class

Reviews: Evolution Muay Thai - Flatiron - Manhattan, NY (The review by James J sums up my opinion)

[Gym Name]
Location: Muay Thai Program | renzogracie.com
224 West 30th Street Suite 100
New York, NY, 10001


Facility: Top notch.

Instructors: Joe Sampieri Joe Sampieri Heads Renzo Gracie’s Muay Thai Program - Unarmed - Realfighting Organization

Reputation: Renzo Gracie. Fighter's do OK. They have this one chick, Florina who I am in love with.

Cost: Expensive. I think in the 200 range. could be wrong

Reviews:
 
I apologize if have posted to the wrong thread, but I figured that the readers of this thread are from the NYC area and may be interested in this event.

Come check out a seminar on Oct 23rd with Muay Thai Legend, Muay Thai World Champion, Rajadamnern & Lumpinee Stadium Champion and the 1st fighter ever to be named fighter of the year 2 years in a row Kaensak Sor Ploenjit!
Date: October 23rd
Location: Xtreme Gym New York
10 Hanover Square (between Water St. and Pearl St.)
New York, NY (downtown Wall Street Area)
Price: $75
Time: 11 am - 2 pm
Cash only please.
Location has lockers and showers for all seminar guests. Please bring Thai pads and gloves if you have them as equipment is limited.

for more info on this event please email: [email protected]

or check out the following link:

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TwoFour Lowkick said:
This thread was linked in another post. Thought I'd add some comments and note some big changes My comments in red.

also added reviews to two gyms
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New York Jiu Jitsu now has Dorian Price as Head Muay Thai instructor since Coban moved to Philly.Dorian was on TUF and trained under Master Toddy for over 5 years as well as being a 2 time VFC Champion. I believe the price for unlimited Muay Thai is 180/month but I heard that if you say you heard of them from Sherdog they offer a discount as well.
 
Dogen Gym, at 257 west 38th street is a GREAT Muay Thai Gym. A few months back i was at Friday Night Fights Muay Thai event in Manhattan and a fighter came out looking dead serious and in fight fit shape. The bell rang and this man who looked like a machine opened up with some of the hardest kicks iv seen. He ended up winning that fight in great fashion and has since fought for and won the belt to make him the current NY UNDEFEATED cruiserweight champion. The man's name is Jason Von Oijen and he is the head trainer at DOGEN GYM. He is a very good instructor and always works hands on with every student in every class. The Muay Thai classes vary from beginner to extremely intense for the active fighter. Jason also runs fight fit classes which are hard conditioning and strength training based and there are also 2 very good boxing instructors that teach boxing. Best gym in NY and the prices are fair ranging from i think as low as 125-175
 
TwoFour Lowkick said:
See my previous post




Evolution Muay Thai
Location: Muay Thai NYC, Muay Thai New York, Evolution Muay Thai NYC
12 w. 27th Street #2
New York, NY 10010
(646) 649-3976

Facility: Nice space. Everything is new (gym opened up in like june I think). No showers or locker rooms yet

Instructors: Brandon Levi. Nice guy, not a fan of his style or the nipple pinching or dirty jokes that go on during class.

Reputation: Haven't been impressed by their fighters. They all seem to brawl. Not much technique displayed. Decent cardio. If you want to see their students:

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i realize its a beginner class but i see a lot of low hands in that vid. im not talking about the kicking side arm swinging either.

maybe its just me but i keep my opposite side hand (non-kicking arm) glued to the side of my head. then again, maybe thats also why i dont generate the most power either.

i could understand if they were bringing the non-kicking side arm across the face in a some sort of a cross block but theyre just swinging both arms it seems and their hands just seem low to begin with in their regular stance.

the only guy with any decent skill in that vid is the big(ger) white dude in the blue short and his hands are pretty low also. ive always been taught you should be hitting pads or bags like how youre gonna fight. if you leave your hands lazy like that in sparring, youre gonna get tagged a lot.

disclaimer: i have never trained old school boxing but im guessing old school Muay Thai would have your hands higher than what is shown.
 
I packed up and moved to NYC a couple months ago to pursue my Muay Thai career and website full-time, so I did my fair share of research before moving down. I originally planned on training at Sitan gym but I was matched up with a fighter from there so I trained at Evolution for the fight. The plan was to train at Sitan afterwards, which I did for a very short stint, but the atmosphere, space, and training schedule didn't fit my needs as well as Evolution.

Even though I've been training at Evolution for a little over a month now it already feels like a second family. Yes there are a lot of beginners but there are also a decent amount of well-trained, solid technical fighters. The videos shown are a little dated and the gym looks completely different.

I can see how Brandon Levi can rub some people the wrong way but his sense of humor cracks me up. He also is very devoted to his fighters and shows that he really has a passion for the sport. Even though I've only trained there for a short time, he's been great in helping me train. I had an amateur title defense for Take On Productions Muay Thai XIX in Queens and he got me more than prepared for it. He took time out of his busy schedule to hold pads for me, improve my technique and push my cardio. He even made time for other fighters that had fights coming up too (for no extra charge mind you).

I know I didn't get time to train at or check out many other gyms, but the atmosphere at Evolution and the way Brandon welcomed me stood out. I'd highly recommend at least giving this place a try if you're looking for solid training in a non-intimidating atmosphere.
 
If you can you owe it to yourself to take some classes from Aaron @ King's.
 
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