Most HW boxers from 90's were using Steroids

[Ivancho]

I was wondering why some people think tyson holyfield lennox lewis, etc were natural. Its clear as water that those boxers were using drugs in an era of poor or non existent testing. Even we can argue that some boxers from 70's maybe were roiders

look at those physiques, natural my ass

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

I was wondering why some people think tyson holyfield lennox lewis, etc were natural. Its clear as water that those boxers were using drugs in an era of poor or non existent testing. Even we can argue that some boxers from 70's maybe were roiders

look at those physiques, natural my ass

World champions in every major sports in the modern times are on high level custom cycling stacks with a specialist physician that their trainer consults. People who get caught just fuck up and not up to date on how to cheat the each new test properly.

in the 90s it was much simpler, they just had to use a whizzinator like the average joe today cheating his dayjob's weed test. but today roid methods and cycling have improved and so have the testing methods.

 

[Hagler]

Since they were pretty much all juiced up, it was still skills, natural advantages and mental strength that made a difference.

You don't make a top notch boxer out of the average Joe with needles alone, while PEDs (especially blood doping) made mediocre cyclists from the 90s look like fucking dragsters.

 

[djacobox372]

Since they were pretty much all juiced up, it was still skills, natural advantages and mental strength that made a difference.

You don't make a top notch boxer out of the average Joe with needles alone, while PEDs (especially blood doping) made mediocre cyclists from the 90s look like fucking dragsters.

I don't completely agree, some fighters would have done better without PEDs than others. For example I don't think Holyfield would have been able to hang in there with real heavyweights without his "supplements." Foreman would have squashed natty Holyfield.

 

[Hagler]

I don't completely agree, some fighters would have done better without PEDs than others. For example I don't think Holyfield would have been able to hang in there with real heavyweights without his "supplements." Foreman would have squashed natty Holyfield.

Holyfield may be a question mark, I guess. That being said he certainly could take a punch and is mental fortitude cannot be questionned. As they say you don't put muscles on a chin. He was no Michael Moorer, IMO.

 

[Mickf]

I beleive tyson used steroids later in his career. The thing with tyson is he was better when he was not using steroids. I think tyson started using steroids as another way to cut corners because he had already stopped training as hard and wasn't improving his skillset. Someone like holyfield i don't think he would of gotten to where he was in the heavyweight division without them.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

The 90's heavyweights just had better genetics than today's fighters is all. The betas of today just can't compare to the alphas of yesteryear.

 

[toogreen]

and the same is true today and will always be

 

[ssx]

I don’t doubt it. Athletes will always look for an advantage, and the testing was rudimentary at best.

 

[DeJulez]

I was wondering why some people think tyson holyfield lennox lewis, etc were natural. Its clear as water that those boxers were using drugs in an era of poor or non existent testing. Even we can argue that some boxers from 70's maybe were roiders

look at those physiques, natural my ass

Got to admit. Seems like most action stars to pro athletes in the 80s and 90s all had bigger muscles. And I would probably agree that steroids were rampant in everything until the crackdown in baseball

 

[djacobox372]

Holyfield may be a question mark, I guess. That being said he certainly could take a punch and is mental fortitude cannot be questionned. As they say you don't put muscles on a chin. He was no Michael Moorer, IMO.

Steroids help chin as well.. makes a fighter recover faster. Holyfield got rocked a lot, but his recovery was amazing. An extra 20lbs of muscle doesn't hurt durability either.

 

[Hagler]

Steroids help chin as well.. makes a fighter recover faster. Holyfield got rocked a lot, but his recovery was amazing. An extra 20lbs of muscle doesn't hurt durability either.

Well, he faced quite some big hitters at HW and he was never all that close to get KOed at CW. He had a chin. I don’t think roids build it out of nowhere.

 

[mozfonky]

could be, holyfield most definitely. The rest? I don't know but could be. I think Holyfield answered the question once of whether he thought any of his opponents used roids, he replied the only guy stronger than him was Foreman. The 70's? No way, boxing has always been way behind other sports when changes come, by the 70's lifting weights was almost universally looked down on by trainers and fighters, let alone steroids. I've heard a few morons even claim Joe Louis was on roids because he had a strong jawline. the problem with things you can't answer is you can't limit them to any amount of reasonability.

 

[mozfonky]

Well, he faced quite some big hitters at HW and he was never all that close to get KOed at CW. He had a chin. I don’t think roids build it out of nowhere.

roids helping a chin is stupid, i know about how some think big neck muscles help absorb punishment but Holyfield could always go to war and I'm sure had a great chin well before he went to heavyweight.

 

[mozfonky]

Got to admit. Seems like most action stars to pro athletes in the 80s and 90s all had bigger muscles. And I would probably agree that steroids were rampant in everything until the crackdown in baseball

very well could be, a lot of those athletes have and will pay the price for it.

 

[PUO3]

This is baseless speculation. Keep it off the boards.