MMA Shorts vs Swim Trunks?

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I never owned a pair of mma trunks basically because they are usually pretty expensive, but i been training jiu jitsu, muay thai, mma for about 3 years and i wear swim trunks with the netting cut out. I mean they work very well, most have the string to tie in the front and they are made from a light material that handles moisture well.

So basically im asking is are there any differences between MMA shorts and swim trunks that make mma shorts worth buying rather than the label of mma companies on the shorts?
 
MMA shorts are basically board shorts.

some are modified and have leg slits and stretchy crotch pannels to allow you to kick higher without tearing the shorts.

some are even coated with anti bacterial coating and are slightly blood resistant.


I train in my So Cal board shorts all the time.


There is nothing like a pair of MMA shorts with all the bells and whistles though.

A good pair of sprawls can be had for around 30$ these days, and that gets you the blood/anti bacteria coating, leg slits, stretchy crotch panel, sweat wicking fabric, tripple stitching, and a much heavier duty velcro closure.
 
Anti-bacterial properties are pretty worthless and are generally gone after your first washing.

But fight shorts are generally more durable, have more stretch/give, and are designed with fighting in mind.

But as long as your current shorts don't have pockets or an external drawstring then it is no big deal.
 
I say this as a guy who owns a boatload of MMA shorts:


Put on your shorts and see if you have full movability - if you can stretch and high kick without any problems and they don't have zippers or anything else that could cause injury, then you're fine and you don't need to buy the oh so fancy MMA specific stuff.
 
Even newer surf board shorts are starting to bring in four-way stretch material as well. I would reiterate the no snaps, buttons, zips, ect on the outside and your good to go.
 
Even newer surf board shorts are starting to bring in four-way stretch material as well. I would reiterate the no snaps, buttons, zips, ect on the outside and your good to go.

I saw a newer pair of quicksilver board shorts yesterday that resembled my jaco shorts very much. The material felt similar and the waist closure shared some characteristics with the Jaco also
 
I would say that the biggest difference between a well-made pair of MMA shorts and surf trunks is in the stitching, the flex panels and the closure system.

As the poster above stated, the antibacterial coating is basically marketing BS, as such treatments are generally rated to last anywhere from 5-10 washes at best.

I think surf trunks will work just fine for someone who is taking a cardio kickboxing class, particularly if the shorts incorporate stretch fabric. However, I believe that a well-made pair of MMA shorts are a wise investment if you are going to be grappling regularly. The stitching is much more robust (triple stitching is key), and the expansion panels provide freedom of movement while decreasing the strain on critical seams. That being said, a cheaply made pair of MMA shorts are just as likely to blow out as surf trunks.

As was also mentioned above, you want to avoid metal snaps or buttons that are typically found on surf trunks--even external drawstrings can be problematic. When Dan acquired the Clinch Gear brand and brought me in to manage it, I was extremely bummed that the founder had not patented the forward folding closure system that we use on all our shorts.

Victor Corey invented that closure system in 2003, and it has since been utilized--legally--by many MMA brands (Warrior, Jaco, Death Clutch & more) and lately in the surfing industry. The reason is that it provides an extremely secure closure mechanism that is free of chafing. Unfortunately, Victor didn't have the cash to complete the patent process. He was a visionary though.

In addition to the waistband, he was the first to add expansion panels to sides and crotch. Again, financial resources prevented Victor from taking Clinch Gear to the next level, which is a shame, because he designed an awesome template for MMA shorts with features (or variations of them) that have since become commonplace. For example, Victor debuted Clinch Gear with the round expansion panel in the crotch about six months before Sprawl released their own version of that feature. Anyhow, while Dan and I upgraded the stitching, fit and fabric quality, Victor is the real innovator of the Clinch Gear brand.

FYI, I think Sprawl is also an innovative brand that helped shape the MMA shorts industry as we know it today, so please do not take any negative connotations from the statement above--just pointing out an interesting historical note. After all, Sprawl is the first MMA-specific loose fit board short that I can recall.

In surfing, the forward folding closure system prevents the discomfort that arises when a button, clasp or knotted drawstring rests between your waist and the surfboard when paddling. We've heard from many surfers over the years who have switched to Clinch Gear shorts. It's interesting, because the surfing industry clearly innovated the board shorts category, but MMA has definitely produced many technical innovations. We borrowed from them, and now they are borrowing from us. Go figure.

Sorry for the novel--it's just that I'm passionate about MMA shorts.

Aaron Crecy
Clinch Gear
 
i like that mma/grappling shorts usually have extra space (not just stretch) for the cup..
 
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Victor Corey invented that closure system in 2003, and it has since been utilized--legally--by many MMA brands (Warrior, Jaco, Death Clutch & more) and lately in the surfing industry. The reason is that it provides an extremely secure closure mechanism that is free of chafing. Unfortunately, Victor didn't have the cash to complete the patent process. He was a visionary though.
FYI

I'm kinda glad you didn't because it allowed the whole industry to evolve and use the best style of waist closure. Now everyone has a great choice of shorts. but yes Clinch gear were the first and they are imo one of the best short companies out there at the top
 
I would say that the biggest difference between a well-made pair of MMA shorts and surf trunks is in the stitching, the flex panels and the closure system.

As the poster above stated, the antibacterial coating is basically marketing BS, as such treatments are generally rated to last anywhere from 5-10 washes at best.

I think surf trunks will work just fine for someone who is taking a cardio kickboxing class, particularly if the shorts incorporate stretch fabric. However, I believe that a well-made pair of MMA shorts are a wise investment if you are going to be grappling regularly. The stitching is much more robust (triple stitching is key), and the expansion panels provide freedom of movement while decreasing the strain on critical seams. That being said, a cheaply made pair of MMA shorts are just as likely to blow out as surf trunks.

As was also mentioned above, you want to avoid metal snaps or buttons that are typically found on surf trunks--even external drawstrings can be problematic. When Dan acquired the Clinch Gear brand and brought me in to manage it, I was extremely bummed that the founder had not patented the forward folding closure system that we use on all our shorts.

Victor Corey invented that closure system in 2003, and it has since been utilized--legally--by many MMA brands (Warrior, Jaco, Death Clutch & more) and lately in the surfing industry. The reason is that it provides an extremely secure closure mechanism that is free of chafing. Unfortunately, Victor didn't have the cash to complete the patent process. He was a visionary though.

In addition to the waistband, he was the first to add expansion panels to sides and crotch. Again, financial resources prevented Victor from taking Clinch Gear to the next level, which is a shame, because he designed an awesome template for MMA shorts with features (or variations of them) that have since become commonplace. For example, Victor debuted Clinch Gear with the round expansion panel in the crotch about six months before Sprawl released their own version of that feature. Anyhow, while Dan and I upgraded the stitching, fit and fabric quality, Victor is the real innovator of the Clinch Gear brand.

FYI, I think Sprawl is also an innovative brand that helped shape the MMA shorts industry as we know it today, so please do not take any negative connotations from the statement above--just pointing out an interesting historical note. After all, Sprawl is the first MMA-specific loose fit board short that I can recall.

In surfing, the forward folding closure system prevents the discomfort that arises when a button, clasp or knotted drawstring rests between your waist and the surfboard when paddling. We've heard from many surfers over the years who have switched to Clinch Gear shorts. It's interesting, because the surfing industry clearly innovated the board shorts category, but MMA has definitely produced many technical innovations. We borrowed from them, and now they are borrowing from us. Go figure.

Sorry for the novel--it's just that I'm passionate about MMA shorts.

Aaron Crecy
Clinch Gear

That was literally one of the most interesting things Ive read on a Sherdog forum. Thank you for sharing that. By the way, where is Clinch located, California?
 
Clinch gear are great. But the idea for the enclosure was actually a retrofit. In Germany we used velcro enclosure similar. Not the same as Victor's design because he did that little flip loop thing. Also I understand Dan doesn't like drawstring. I like the shorts very much. Aren't they made in Pakistan? Not that it matters. I think it would be cool to make in Germany we have good textile abilities. It would just be expensive.I would buy more gear if it were made in Amerika. I know someone will someday.
 
Clinch Gear shorts are definitely NOT made in Pakistan--our factory is in Mexico, about 20 minutes from our office.

As for Victor's closure design being a retrofit, I certainly agree that it is a variation of technology that was previously being used. However, the forward folding aspect took that technology to a superior level in terms of strength and comfort. Wish I could say it was my idea!

Aaron
Clinch Gear
 
I never owned a pair of mma trunks basically because they are usually pretty expensive, i wear swim trunks with the netting cut out. QUOTE]

I wear netting with the trunks cut out and no one ever wants to roll with me:icon_sad:
 
I wear netting with the trunks cut out and no one ever wants to roll with me:icon_sad:[/QUOTE said:
Dont want your fruits spilling out of the basket.
 
I would say that the biggest difference between a well-made pair of MMA shorts and surf trunks is in the stitching, the flex panels and the closure system.

As the poster above stated, the antibacterial coating is basically marketing BS, as such treatments are generally rated to last anywhere from 5-10 washes at best.

I think surf trunks will work just fine for someone who is taking a cardio kickboxing class, particularly if the shorts incorporate stretch fabric. However, I believe that a well-made pair of MMA shorts are a wise investment if you are going to be grappling regularly. The stitching is much more robust (triple stitching is key), and the expansion panels provide freedom of movement while decreasing the strain on critical seams. That being said, a cheaply made pair of MMA shorts are just as likely to blow out as surf trunks.

As was also mentioned above, you want to avoid metal snaps or buttons that are typically found on surf trunks--even external drawstrings can be problematic. When Dan acquired the Clinch Gear brand and brought me in to manage it, I was extremely bummed that the founder had not patented the forward folding closure system that we use on all our shorts.

Victor Corey invented that closure system in 2003, and it has since been utilized--legally--by many MMA brands (Warrior, Jaco, Death Clutch & more) and lately in the surfing industry. The reason is that it provides an extremely secure closure mechanism that is free of chafing. Unfortunately, Victor didn't have the cash to complete the patent process. He was a visionary though.

In addition to the waistband, he was the first to add expansion panels to sides and crotch. Again, financial resources prevented Victor from taking Clinch Gear to the next level, which is a shame, because he designed an awesome template for MMA shorts with features (or variations of them) that have since become commonplace. For example, Victor debuted Clinch Gear with the round expansion panel in the crotch about six months before Sprawl released their own version of that feature. Anyhow, while Dan and I upgraded the stitching, fit and fabric quality, Victor is the real innovator of the Clinch Gear brand.

FYI, I think Sprawl is also an innovative brand that helped shape the MMA shorts industry as we know it today, so please do not take any negative connotations from the statement above--just pointing out an interesting historical note. After all, Sprawl is the first MMA-specific loose fit board short that I can recall.

In surfing, the forward folding closure system prevents the discomfort that arises when a button, clasp or knotted drawstring rests between your waist and the surfboard when paddling. We've heard from many surfers over the years who have switched to Clinch Gear shorts. It's interesting, because the surfing industry clearly innovated the board shorts category, but MMA has definitely produced many technical innovations. We borrowed from them, and now they are borrowing from us. Go figure.

Sorry for the novel--it's just that I'm passionate about MMA shorts.

Aaron Crecy
Clinch Gear


Nice post from a fellow who posts less than ten times a year, and has been registered on Sherdog sin 2003. Thanks for the insight.
 
I never owned a pair of mma trunks basically because they are usually pretty expensive, but i been training jiu jitsu, muay thai, mma for about 3 years and i wear swim trunks with the netting cut out. I mean they work very well, most have the string to tie in the front and they are made from a light material that handles moisture well.

So basically im asking is are there any differences between MMA shorts and swim trunks that make mma shorts worth buying rather than the label of mma companies on the shorts?

Many differences, but the most important are the elastic materials, fit, and that MMA Shorts are triple and sometimes quadruple stitched. I have had 3 pairs of RVCA boardshorts tear[in the junk area] in one month from light rolling.
 
really sorry for accidental bump! replied to wrong tab!
 
Even newer surf board shorts are starting to bring in four-way stretch material as well. I would reiterate the no snaps, buttons, zips, ect on the outside and your good to go.

Plus one. This is generally what sets apart fight shorts from board shorts- no pockets, buttons, zippers, etc. to get snagged on.
 
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